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Developers! Developers! Developers!Developers! Developers! Developers!Posted Aug 24, 2012 17:07 UTC (Fri) by apoelstra (subscriber, #75205)In reply to: Developers! Developers! Developers! by jmorris42 Parent article: GUADEC: GNOME OS conversations
> If you were trying to bring up a new programmer, what documentation would you use?
What I do (and I think it's common) is to download and read the source for some official Gnome applications, like gnome-terminal or sound-juicer. If I'm doing something weird, I'll grab the Gimp. If I'm using C#, I'll grab Banshee.
It's not great, but for something as large as Gnome, I can't see a tutorial being all that useful.
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Developers! Developers! Developers! Posted Aug 24, 2012 17:34 UTC (Fri) by jmorris42 (subscriber, #2203) [Link]
Great. So if you are an experienced C programmer who can read and understand the source to The GIMP you can code a simple GNOME app.
You have a new programmer. They know some Python, Java or whatever. With the magic in Gtk+ and such every machine has bindings for those languages. Heck, RedHat and pretty much everyone and their dog does all the small fiddly bits in Python these days. So what do you point that new to GNOME (and probably Linux) programmer at to get them up to speed.
And if you can't see a tutorial on how to code a simple program as even possible, isn't that a huge problem?
Now you know why I still reach up to the shelf over my desk and grab _Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk_ anytime I need to bang out a quick graphical thing. Every time I consider jumping to GNOME with either Perl or trying some Python... but get daunted by the wall I'd have to climb over and just use what has documentation. Pretty sure I'm done before I'd even really get started on the Googlefoo to try a GNOME version. Tk is old and a bit klunky but a solid accurate manual beats the snot out of any theoretical tech advantage in my estimation.
Developers! Developers! Developers! Posted Aug 26, 2012 19:03 UTC (Sun) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link]
The documentation and examples available at pygtk.org weren't bad, when I first dipped my toes into Gtk+ programming in Python a few years ago.
Now, with the switch to PyGObject-Introspection, things are a bit more cloudy. There is a nice Gtk+ 3 in Python tutorial out there, built with Sphinx (the documentation tool, not the search index), but I don't remember the URL.
I've received a patch to convert my PyGtk project to PyGI (I don't think I could've managed to do that myself), and I manage to maintain it, barely, by referring to the C API documentation and translating it into Python syntax. Also, people on IRC are helpful (#pygtk on irc.gnome.org).
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