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Lack of faith is not a kind of faith

Lack of faith is not a kind of faith

Posted Aug 20, 2012 15:27 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
In reply to: Lack of faith is not a kind of faith by hppnq
Parent article: Garzik: An Andre To Remember

> Unfortunately, of course, our familiar space is not Euclidian. Well, mine isn't.
And? Mathematics is in no way related with the real world. The fact that some mathematical structures can be used to model objects and behaviors from the real world is just a happy coincidence.

> But, given a nicely-behaved Euclidian space, the challenge would be to prove that there can be at most one line through a point that is not on a second, parallel line.

That's impossible. The Euclid's fifth axiom is independent from others and that has actually been proven. It's not possible to prove that in general case (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompletenes... ), but Euclidean geometry is a complete theory (in Göedel sense).

So you have the following choices:
1) Leave it out entirely. You'll have much poorer set of theorems.
2) Use it. You'll get boring old geometry.
3) Replace it with another axiom. You'll get non-Euclidean geometries as a result.


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