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Emacs 24Emacs 24Posted Aug 19, 2012 21:28 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304)In reply to: Emacs 24 by theophrastus Parent article: GDB 7.5 released
Yeah, it has major changes (I consider them improvements): a proper package system, bidirectional text support, lexical binding and closures in elisp proper...
... for all of that, I've been using trunk Emacs in anger for real work since early last year (long before the 24.1 branch) and have hardly ever seen problems: all those I did have were fixed within a week. There are known problems (e.g. lexical binding and the debugger don't work together perfectly yet), but none serious enough to affect me. I don't use every Emacs package, of course, so my experience may be unrepresentative, but little lightweight packages like CEDET, Gnus, and emacs-w3m work perfectly well :)
It is certainly no worse than 23.x: I would call it a heck of a lot better. You probably do want to upgrade. I wonder why Debian is holding off...
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Emacs 24 in Debian testing Posted Aug 19, 2012 23:04 UTC (Sun) by rleigh (subscriber, #14622) [Link]
Because it was uploaded just one day before the codefreeze, and so has effectively zero testing in Debian, let alone not yet having all the other emacs-related packages updated to work with it. I'm sure that the core Emacs 24 is solid, it's just bad timing.
Emacs 24 in Debian testing Posted Aug 20, 2012 22:20 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Oh! It's not tracking the 24.1 branch or anything? Using anything frozen in time with known bugs like that is probably a bad idea.
Emacs 24 Posted Aug 20, 2012 6:54 UTC (Mon) by SiB (subscriber, #4048) [Link]
I've had no luck with emacs24 gnus nnimap from Debian sid. Unfortunately. I did not have time to find out why.
Emacs 24 Posted Aug 20, 2012 19:39 UTC (Mon) by daglwn (subscriber, #65432) [Link]
I am also having trouble with nnimap in a custom-built emacs24. It seems to work with some servers and not others. There's one folder on one server where all new mail is immediately marked read. It's really annoying.
Emacs 24 Posted Aug 20, 2012 22:21 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
Yeah, this is definitely not an all-server problem: I rely on Gnus+nnimap for access to my work mailbox, and it works fine.
Someone with access to both a server that works and one that doesn't probably needs to dig into the code and see what is causing them to be treated differently. It pretty much has to be something the server is doing that we don't expect.
Emacs 24 Posted Aug 21, 2012 14:26 UTC (Tue) by daglwn (subscriber, #65432) [Link]
I have access to both but I'm hardly an Emacs/Gnus wizard. If someone can help me through the debug process I'd be very happy to do this.
Emacs 24 Posted Aug 21, 2012 22:59 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
(setq gnus-verbose 9) is generally the first stage.
The next stage involves the elisp debugger or copious scattering of (message ...) calls...
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