Distribution quotes of the week

For things that someone can go work on by themselves, such as exploring openrc, the most effective approach seems to be to open a discussion on debian-devel if they want some input, read the first couple day's worth of discussion, and then ignore the rest of the thread and just go on and do whatever one feels the right thing is. Almost none of the subsequent discussion after the first few days will be original or worth reading, let alone responding to. Even for things that can't be done by one team, seeking consensus by talking directly to the other teams and groups most affected is probably going to be more productive than participating in a 100-message thread in debian-devel.

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> So let people make their OpenRC+mdev systems without systemd, and let
> people make their systemd+udev systems without OpenRC. Everybody wins.

I for one expect nothing less of Gentoo.

Ah, that must be why the community hasn't rallied around upstart yet... we aren't being hostile enough! Thanks for helping me understand, I'll do what I can to make sure Canonical is being appropriately hostile wrt upstart from now on. ;)