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Day: GNOME OS

Posted Aug 12, 2012 13:57 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: Day: GNOME OS by slashdot
Parent article: Day: GNOME OS

Not only writing code is much more time consuming than configuring, but options never conflict, while there is no way to make arbitrary extensions not conflict.

Sorry, but this post contains so much nonsense I don't even know where to start. Probably from the beginning.

  1. Not only writing code is much more time consuming than configuring — nope. You can only configure something if someone else coded that something first and provided options to configure it, too!
  2. Options never conflict — have you done any software development at all? Options conflict all the time — and these conflicts must be resolved by program developers, but extension writers. And their number is limited. That's why software evolves from the options to extensions.
  3. Think about it - even moving an icon requires someone to write code. Ridiculous. No other UI has that kind of limitation. — Hmm… I know, I'm dumb (noone contradicted this statement yet so it's probably just me). Can you point me to step-by-step instruction which explains how to move icons in one of three products:
    1. iOS home screen
    2. MS Office 2010 ribbon toolbar
    3. Android's list of applications
    When you'll present such howtos you'll have a point.


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Day: GNOME OS

Posted Aug 14, 2012 6:08 UTC (Tue) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> Can you point me to step-by-step instruction which explains how to move icons in one of three products:

> iOS home screen
> MS Office 2010 ribbon toolbar
> Android's list of applications

I do not use Office 2010, so I cannot tell you that (but Google points to many answers - do yourself a favour - use it).

I can tell you about iOS home screen. You hold one of the icons until they all start shaking. Then you rearrange them using your finger, by dragging and dropping.

I can also tell you about Android (well Galaxy S2 anyway). You tap options, then edit. Then you just drag and drop with you finger.

I have no idea what the point of your question was.

Day: GNOME OS

Posted Aug 14, 2012 6:13 UTC (Tue) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]

> You can only configure something if someone else coded that something first and provided options to configure it, too!

Which is the point of our complaint. Gnome 3 developers did not code a generic way to do the most trivial of things for a GUI - rearrange elements on the screen. Duh!

Instead, for someone to move an icon by one position on the grid, you have to create or download code. But, if you want to move it by two, you may be out of luck. Totally and utterly ridiculous, of course.

Day: GNOME OS

Posted Aug 14, 2012 10:28 UTC (Tue) by slashdot (guest, #22014) [Link]

> You can only configure something if someone else coded that something first and provided options to configure it, too!

Yeah, except that's done once rather than every time a user needs to do something slightly different.

> Options conflict all the time — and these conflicts must be resolved by program developers,

Of course.

That's the whole fucking job of the program developers, making sure their software works, in all configurations!

Again, it's DONE ONCE and TESTED.

> And their number is limited. That's why software evolves from the options to extensions.

For things that do not conflict with other functionality.

> Can you point me to step-by-step instruction which explains how to move icons in one of three products

Microsoft Office 2010 ribbon toolbar:
1. Right click on ribbon
2. Click on "Customize the ribbon..." in the popup menu
3. Use the two buttons on the right with the up and down arrow to move toolbar item groups left/right, hide them, move to different panes
4. Use the "Add >>" and "<< Remove" to add/remove stuff from the toolbar
5. Export your toolbar configuration to a file using "Import/Export"

As you can see, real applications with actual market share are not toys and can be configured.

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