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Day: GNOME OSDay: GNOME OSPosted Aug 8, 2012 9:06 UTC (Wed) by paulj (subscriber, #341)In reply to: Day: GNOME OS by drag Parent article: Day: GNOME OS
People have created forks of Gnome stuff since back Gnome 1.x days as a sort of protest. FWIW, as a GNOME user since those days, I can't remember noticing any such forks, until GNOME 3. The first time I noticed GNOME having forks was Mint/Cinnamon and then MATE, both of which appear have built up sufficient momentum to achieve escape velocity, and be more than protest "flash in the pan" projects.
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Day: GNOME OS Posted Aug 8, 2012 9:46 UTC (Wed) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
GoneME is the one that generated the most fervor that I can remember:
http://www.akcaagac.com/index_goneme.html
The funny thing is that looking back to his complaints a great number of them have been addressed since 2004. Gconf is replaced by dconf, although probably it is something he would consider worse. Mozilla has been replaced by KHTML derived Webkit. Dependencies for Gnome have been much streamlined. Spatial Nautilus is gone. And a few other details.
I know that abandoning things like Sawfish and going with something much simpler really really pissed off a huge number of people for a very long time. I didn't really pay much attention to Linux political things back when I first started using Linux (and was delighted to learn I didn't need Gnome to run Enlightenment.) but I was still seeing Gnome 2 hate coming from people who liked all the configuration options and scripting that was available for Gnome 1.x up until a couple years ago.
Gnome forks as a response to Gnome 3 really amount to Cinnamon and Mate.
Mate should of been completely unnecessary. Looking back it's a stupid mistake of Gnome project to not make Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 install-able in parallel. Once they achieve the ability to easily install Gnome 2 on everybody's system that cares about it they will probably just go into maintenance mode.
Unity/XFCE et al started long before Gnome 3.
Cinnamon is a real swear-to-goodness fork of Gnome Shell to make it more Gnome 2 like. I actually see that going somewhere eventually. I was hoping they could it just through extensions, but I guess that was not possible.
Day: GNOME OS Posted Aug 8, 2012 16:19 UTC (Wed) by nevets (subscriber, #11875) [Link]
> I know that abandoning things like Sawfish and going with something much simpler really really pissed off a huge number of people for a very long time.
I know I was one of them. Although, I was able to replace metacity with sawfish in the gnome environment, even though it seemed that gnome kept making switching the window-manager harder at each release. I even eventually did:
# rm /usr/bin/metacity
and that worked well :-)
> Looking back it's a stupid mistake of Gnome project to not make Gnome 2 and Gnome 3 install-able in parallel.
And this has been my #1 complaint about Gnome3. I just don't work well with the gnome3 workflow. I really liked gnome2 and after a decade of tweaks I really streamlined my workflow with it. Gnome3 destroyed that. I've said it in the past and I'll say it again...
The biggest thing I hate about Gnome3 is that it took gnome2 away from me.
Day: GNOME OS Posted Aug 8, 2012 23:42 UTC (Wed) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]
May I ask what you think about Fallback mode? Once someone pointed out that you have to hold down Alt while clicking on the panels to customize them, I felt right at home.
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