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McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus]McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus]Posted Aug 7, 2012 0:44 UTC (Tue) by ewan (subscriber, #5533)In reply to: McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] by hummassa Parent article: McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus]
I think the key difference was the attitude of the developers - in the KDE 4.0 era the conversations were along the lines of:
User: "Wah! It's broken!"
whereas with Gnome 3 it feels more like:
User: "Wah! It's broken!"
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McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 7:24 UTC (Tue) by renox (subscriber, #23785) [Link]
"Hold tight"?? KDE developers activated by default Nepomuk even though it was broken for a *long* time (several years, several release), so I'd say that this is a very inaccurate summary.
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 9:26 UTC (Tue) by ewan (subscriber, #5533) [Link]
Sure, but it, along with a lot of KDE 4.0 stuff, was acknowledged to be unfinished, but with the intention that it would be finished. With Gnome, the type-ahead feature has been taken away, and there's no intention to fix it. That's completely different.
As people have said several times in this very thread, the problem isn't the introduction of a shiny new (not quite working) search feature. The problem is the withdrawal of an existing, working, expected and useful feature.
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 15:55 UTC (Tue) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]
Except that the problem with Nepomuk was that, on anything but the latest hardware, it made the system unusable.
Defaulting to an unusable system? WTF!
Okay, if I will run it on an Athlon t-bird, but I came across plenty of reports of boot times measured in tens of minutes, and occasionally hours, when some poor sod didn't realise his "upgrade" had activated Nepomuk. How are you supposed to recover your system if it's taking eons to boot?
I can't remember how bad it was for me, but I can remember struggling to disable it to get a usable system back. I think it might have been enabled again by now but ...
The main excuse by the developers for enabling it was "but it'll make using kmail faster..." - another WTF moment! How many KDE users run kmail? I've NEVER used it - why should I want an app on my system enabled by default who's *only* effect on my normal work is to slow it to the speed of frozen treacle?
That said, I've stuck with KDE ever since SuSE 5.x, although I've now got xfce and lxde installed as well - lxde looks nice ... :-)
Cheers,
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 16:56 UTC (Tue) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978) [Link] The main excuse by the developers for enabling it was "but it'll make using kmail faster..."Are you sure you're not confusing Nepomuk with Akonadi?
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 14:03 UTC (Tue) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]
> KDE developers activated by default Nepomuk even though it was broken for a *long* time
once I deactivated it (on KDE 4.1) I had to manually reactivate it (on KDE 4.8) as I heard it was working properly.
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 8, 2012 0:37 UTC (Wed) by jackb (subscriber, #41909) [Link]
Nepomuk is still broken.
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264465
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 9:53 UTC (Tue) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] User: "Wah! It's broken!" That is if the conversation doesn't go like User: »Wah! It's broken!«
McCann: Cross Cut [the future of Nautilus] Posted Aug 7, 2012 14:05 UTC (Tue) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]
You forgot "you can still continue using kde 3.5.8, and we will put 3.5.9 out next week. ah, you'll lose on Amarok, but just that."
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