Martin Michlmayr has
floated the idea of allowing vendors and projects to carry a Debian brand to promote their efforts and the Debian Project.
Work based on the Debian Project has certainly found its way into plenty
of third-party projects. The KNOPPIX
project is based on Debian GNU/Linux, as well as Xandros, Lindows.com, and the Skolelinux distribution
for schools. Many, but not all, of the organizations that work with
Debian have also been good about folding code back into the Debian
Project. It would certainly raise the visibility of the Debian Project
if all of these projects carried a Debian brand. It may be no secret to
KNOPPIX users that KNOPPIX is based on Debian GNU/Linux, but how many
Lindows users are aware of the Debian connection?
The discussion came about because the Skolelinux project sought to call
their non-profit foundation "Debian Foundation Norway." Michlmayr
indicates that it would be a bad idea to let third-parties that are
paying developers to use the Debian name itself:
However, I believe that "Debian" should not pay developers. By "Debian"
I mean the project as a whole or any of its organizations (such as SPI).
"Debian" paying developers might lead to many problems. The project
paying some developers while others work on it in their spare time is
not fair, and there is the big problem of selecting who to hire. This
can cause great animosity and have bad effects on the motivation of
developers.
No doubt some developers would chafe at the idea of other Debian
developers being paid by the project for their efforts, while they're busy
contributing
for free. But few, if any, seem to mind when code makes its way back
from projects that are utilizing work from the Debian Project, whether
the developers working on said code are paid or volunteer. Michlmayr
proposes that third parties be allowed to use a "Debian Labs" or similar
brand to indicate that they're doing work related to Debian without
being an official part of the Debian Project.
We could create a "Debian Labs" brand and publicize what it means for an
organization to carry that name. Since we own the Debian trademark, we
can control who is allowed to use the "Debian Labs" brand. We have to
develop a set of guidelines for this. So in some sense Debian has some
control over what those organizations do. On the other hand, they are
largely autonomous of Debian and can do with their money whatever they
want -- that way, "Debian" wouldn't need to decide who to hire, etc, and
could avoid the problems described in the mail mentioned above.
Though the idea has been well received so far, Michlmayr says it still
needs to be fleshed out. One major question is whether for-profit
companies would be allowed to use the Debian Labs brand. Several users
on the Debian mailing list were against allowing for-profit companies to
use a Debian Labs brand or similar, while a few said they had no problem
with the idea of a commercial entity using Debian Labs.
Another concern that was raised is to make sure that any agreement that
would allow an outside organization to use a Debian brand could be
terminated. It would be somewhat embarrassing, to say the least, to have
a "SCO Debian Labs" brand still in widespread use at this point.
If the idea comes to fruition, a Debian trademarked brand will no doubt
carry much more stringent guidelines than the Linux trademark, which is
administered fairly liberally. If the Debian Project can come up with a
workable agreement, it would no doubt be of benefit to the project and
the projects and organizations using Debian in their work.
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Distribution News
It's official. Slackware Linux 9.1 has been released. "
This is
another great release, featuring GCC 3.2.3, GNOME 2.4.0, KDE 3.1.4, and
Kernel 2.4.22."
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Since the 9.1 release a a few changes have rolled in to
slackware-current, including an updated OpenSSL and Perl (for security
reasons), plus Samba 3.0, Xfce 4.0 and SlackPKG 0.99.1.
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The second Fedora Core (once known as Red Hat Linux) test release is now
available. "
Use of test releases in
production environments could lead to disastrous results, such as
spontaneous musical theatre from your engineers. Be afraid." If you
are not sufficiently afraid, the announcement contains a list of mirror
sites.
Linux Journal provides some thoughts
on the Red Hat/Fedora merger. "The main reason for the Red
Hat/Fedora merger is straight-forward: Red Hat is a for-profit company, not
a charity. In short, Red Hat loses money on Red Hat Linux. Turning it over
to Fedora will help keep the company profitable."
LinuxQuestions.org
interviews Jeremy Hogan, Manager of Community Relations at Red Hat.
LQ) Tell us a little about the just released Fedora project (How do you
see it impacting RH, how does it compare to Cooker or even Debian, what
went into it's release, etc).
JH) Fedora is what Red Hat Linux was. Kind of the People's Republic of
Myanmar to Burma. It's a project with rolling releases, not a product
with predictable release dates, support, services, etc.
Red Hat Linux bug fixes:
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SuSE has sent out a
press release announcing
that version 9.0 of the SuSE Linux distribution will be available "by
October 24th." This release includes the inevitable new desktop, winmodem
support, user-mode Linux, and a version of the (unreleased) 2.6 kernel
along with a 2.4.21 kernel full of 2.6 backports.
SuSE has also announced the release schedule of SuSE Linux Enterprise
Server would stretch from the current 12 months to an 18 - 24 month cycle.
Vnunet covers the
announcement. "The next major Linux Enterprise Server release
will be in the second or third quarter of 2004 and will support the Linux
2.6 kernel. "[This release] will be a watershed in terms of scalability
and will be easier for independent software vendors developing for both Red
Hat and SuSE," said [SuSE VP David] Burger."
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In nearly simultaneous announcements, MandrakeSoft and SuSe have announced
the end of support for their older distributions. MandrakeSoft
is no longer supporting Mandrake Linux 8.2
as of September 30. The oldest supported version of Mandrake Linux is
now 9.0. SuSE
has cut off SuSE Linux 7.2,
but is still supporting 7.3.
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Earlier this week Trustix AS, parent company behind TSL,
announced that the company was filing for
bankruptcy, and as a result all sales and support of the Trustix Linux
Solutions product line were suspended.
Then Erlend Midttun, founding father of TSL, and TSL developer Christian
Toldnes announced the start of a new
company, Tawie Technologies AS, to provide full support and services.
Trustix Secure Linux has become Tawie Server Linux in the process.
TSL has bug fixes in swup and swupconf
available for versions 1.5 and 2.0.
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The
September 23 edition of the Debian
Weekly News looks at Gnoppix, changelog abuse, the new cdimage.debian.org
with iso images and an authoritative directory structure, and much more.
The September 30 edition of DWN is also
available. This issue looks at the "Joey meets Joey" session at the
Oldenburg Linux Developers conference; Lessons in Packaging Linux
Applications; the newly formed Committee for FSF-Debian Discussion; Python
Transition Problems; and much more.
Debian secretary Manoj Srivastava has announced a period of discussion on proposals
to amend section 4.1.5 of the Debian constitution.
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The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter for the week of September 29, 2003 is out.
Topics include the next Gentoo BugDay and the featured sponsor of the week
- Oregon State University.
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The embedded Linux companies seem to be having some sort of race to see who can deploy the (still unreleased) 2.6 kernel first. LynuxWorks
announced a 2.6-based beta three weeks ago. Now SnapGear has sent out
a press release proclaiming the availability of SnapGear Embedded Linux 3.0, which, of course, includes a 2.6 kernel. The PR claims that the distribution is available for download now from
snapgear.org, but it looks like it's not quite there as of this writing.
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Minor distribution updates
ALT Linux Compact 2.3 beta
(20030926) has been released. Click below for details.
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ClusterKnoppix has released
v3.2-2003-09-05-EN with
minor feature enhancements. "
Changes: This version syncs with the
latest Knoppix release. It upgrades to kernel 2.4.22 and openmosix-1
release, upgrades to openmosix-user-0.3.4, upgrades to the latest
openmosixview, adds libgtop2 libcommoncpp2-1.0- 0c102, adds chpox-0.5, adds
Gomd CVS 20030917, and removes the default MFS/DFSA support because of a
tmpfs bug."
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Damn Small Linux has released
v0.4.8 with minor
feature enhancements. "
Changes: Fabian Franz's 'toram' linuxrc
routine was added, so the whole system can be put into RAM, which requires
only 64M of RAM. The CD player plugin for XMMS was added. The ability to
chose language specific keyboard layout was restored (e.g. 'lang=de'), and
the default is US English. The Debian 'wireless-tools' package was added. A
bug in Xpacman was fixed, and the keys to work with German, French, and
English were re-mapped. Other small feature and usability enhancements were
made."
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DietLinux has released
v0.1.2 with major feature
enhancements. "
Changes: The Makefiles for downloading the
dietlinux-files and build images were rewritten. It's now possible to build
floppy images as well. Including your own files in the image has been made
easier."
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dyne:bolic has released
v1.0 with major feature
enhancements. "
Changes: Important milestones for the project have
been reached since the last stable release: XBOX support, automatic
clustering on the same LAN, a nested data storage mechanism, and improved
speed and hardware support. Many new applications have been added in order
to complete the desktop functionality and fulfill many different tasks and
needs which became apparent after much testing of ergonomic and usability
issues."
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GNOPPIX has released
v0.5.4-1 with major
feature enhancements. "
Changes: This version adds a GNOPPIX
installer, an icon for modem/DSL connections, support for NTFS volumes, a
Persistent Home option, and English and US descriptions to Desktop
icons. It fixes automounter close, moves to UTF-8 code, fixes changing of
root and user passwords, updates the hw-database for autoconfig, backports
120 new packages, removes all non-free packages, updates to kernel
2.4.22-xfs, installs gnome-cups-manager, and include many bugfixes and
updates."
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SmoothWall has released
v2.0 beta 6 with major
bugfixes. "
Changes: The 2.4.22 kernel is now used and the core
distribution was updated to updated Red Hat 8.0. The BeWAN PCI ADSL card is
now supported, and ping and traceroute diagnostics were added to the Tools
section. H.323, MMS (streaming), and Quake masquerade helper modules were
included. Port forward ranges were implemented and the HTTPS admin port was
changed from 445 to 441."
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Source Mage GNU/Linux v0.7, code name
"Flare" has been released. Click below for details.
Full Story (comments: none)
ThinStation has released
v1.0.1.
"
Changes: This version now uses busybox 1.0pre2, and updates the
scripts to work with it, fixes a bug in the xf-common script for the Xvesa
server, fixes a bug in sound-nasd and sound-esd which caused boot to hang,
and adds a colours fix for ICA."
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Warewulf has released
v1.15 with major bugfixes.
"
Changes: The purpose of this release is to fix a typo/bug in the
Warewulf library that caused most tools to error out."
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Distribution reviews
DistroWatch has
a
review of Source Mage, with a look at some other source based
distributions. "
As Source Mage proclaims in their "mission
statement" their goal is to give total control back to system
administrators. They are not kidding. It is very clear this system means
business and is not intended for beginners. Onebase on the other hand
aspires to being easy to install and use even for less experienced users,
as well as being flexible and powerful, yet transparent. To this end it
provides a tool, OLM, intended for both configuring and managing the
system. I was very curious to see how it will achieve these somewhat
conflicting goals."
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