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such nastiness.such nastiness.Posted Jul 31, 2012 1:05 UTC (Tue) by louie (subscriber, #3285)In reply to: such nastiness. by bronson Parent article: Otte: staring into the abyss The discussion is over once someone stoops to lmgtfy. No, the discussion was over when you indicated you had no idea who said the quote, nor even any understanding of what the quote meant. It's only one of the most widely quoted statements about software design of the past 25 years (well, 23). If you didn't recognize it (or at least deeply understand the intuition behind it), your qualifications to participate in a discussion about UI design probably aren't quite where they should be.
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Jobs quote Posted Jul 31, 2012 2:34 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] I confess, I didn't know it was a Jobs quote until I googled. On the other hand, very, very few people can pull off what Steve Jobs pulled off. Most people who take the Jobs approach of dictating to their users produce garbage. Jobs just happened to be extremely gifted with a very deep understanding of the shiny things that non-technical users would like. He also understood that most people are happy to trade freedom for shiny things, which enabled the walled garden that Apple is becoming.
such nastiness. Posted Jul 31, 2012 14:11 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
Apologies for not recognizing those two sentences as a quote -- I guess I'm not enough of a Steve Jobs fanboi.
Want to hear how unqualified I am to be talking about UI? I didn't even known that's what the conversation was about. I'm pretty sure Slashdot was talking about DE project structure, leadership, roadmaps, and core functionality. You sure we're only talking UI?
And, while I'd tone down my first reply a little, I stand by what I said. Ignore your customers at your peril.
such nastiness. Posted Aug 5, 2012 22:24 UTC (Sun) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]
Turns out, despite Jobs's hyperbole, even Apple listens to its customers. http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/how-apple-cond...
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