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A casualty in the patent wars

A casualty in the patent wars

Posted Jul 12, 2012 23:35 UTC (Thu) by jmorris42 (subscriber, #2203)
Parent article: A casualty in the patent wars

Input a search term and have a bunch of independent data sources look it up and present a unified result. That is it? Would Palm OS qualify as prior art? I can't see why not.

You would click the magnifiying glass, enter a search and every app (built in or add on) that had registered a search hook would launch one at a time and contribute results to the screen segregated by app and you could click a result to launch the app on that record. Each app was free to decide what information should be made available to the search feature.


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A casualty in the patent wars

Posted Jul 13, 2012 19:49 UTC (Fri) by price (subscriber, #59790) [Link]

Part of the game in writing patents is that you start with a very broad claim (like the one quoted in the article), and then add a number of so-called "dependent claims" that add more details. This technique allows you to have it both ways as the patent-holder: it's very hard for the defendant to say out of hand that the patent doesn't apply (because the first claim is so broad), but it's also hard for them to knock it down with an obvious bit of prior art (because the dependent claims are so specific.)

In this case, a lot of the dependent claims still look pretty laughably obvious and the old Palm OS may be prior art for them. (I never used one, so I don't really know.) But does it include "the steps of determining a context for the input of the information identifier, and varying [the] ranking [of modules to query] in accordance with the determined context" (claim 8)? Did it before 2000 have one of the heuristics "locate[] Internet web pages" (claim 15)? Android does. And even though the statute and every policy rationale for patents require that the claimed invention be non-obvious (unlike these), it's been hard to get that requirement applied seriously.

I certainly wish Google's litigators the best of luck in finding prior art and winning their case. This kind of patent hurts everyone who wants to actually innovate and make things.

A casualty in the patent wars

Posted Jul 17, 2012 22:06 UTC (Tue) by jmorris42 (subscriber, #2203) [Link]

Well Palm devices in 2000 were too puny for much in the area of networking so that is a problem.

But since the "locate[] Internet web pages" part is nothing more than submitting the search term to Google I'd love to hear a Google lawyer put the question bluntly to the troll:

"So you assert that if Google writes code that submits a search query to Google; that Google owes you money for your patented invention?"

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