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Not necessarily. I would consider it to just be *tolerating* it, combined with a desire to bring some semblance of order to the chaos...
Searching for common ground between Debian and FSF
Posted Jul 12, 2012 23:37 UTC (Thu) by ldarby (subscriber, #41318)
Posted Jul 12, 2012 23:47 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
If you define the "enemy" as your users who are trying to get things done, you are correct.
The FSF has forgotten their earlier statements that it's acceptable to use closed code when there is no open equivalent yet. Instead they are trying to say that users should not have the choice of closed code at all.
Posted Jul 13, 2012 0:09 UTC (Fri) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
Posted Jul 19, 2012 15:55 UTC (Thu) by Wol (guest, #4433)
But you'll find RMS quoted as saying that if you look back far enough. Probably the mid 80s.
Posted Jul 13, 2012 1:20 UTC (Fri) by ldarby (subscriber, #41318)
By enemy I meant the popularity of the software, possible the software itself, and maybe the authors, but not the users.
> The FSF has forgotten their earlier statements that it's acceptable to use closed code when there is no open equivalent yet.
I can't remember where I read this and I can't find a link, but I thought RMS's said it's never OK to use non-free, apart from when replacing it, i.e. in order to bootstrap the GNU project. And if there's no free alternative then to get started writing one. (I'm not saying that's practical, I'm saying that's what his position is...)
> Instead they are trying to say that users should not have the choice of closed code at all.
Yes, the FSF has a zero-tolerance policy for non-free, and trying to prevent it being used, by preventing users from finding out about it, is consistent with that. (although it's pretty much censorship, and very ineffective at that)
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