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DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updatesDiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updatesPosted Jul 7, 2012 10:54 UTC (Sat) by drag (subscriber, #31333)In reply to: DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates by rodgerd Parent article: DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates
Gnome 3.0 was the first major UI change in 9 years. Every release before that and since then has been largely incremental.
Unless you take what the man said to be 'never ever change the UI ever', which it doesn't seem that way, then I don't think it would of made much of a difference.
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DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 7, 2012 12:13 UTC (Sat) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
The problem with Gnome 3 (G)UI change is that it addressed a problem nobody had: how to do single tasking efficiently. In the process, it forced everyone into using more clicks/moves to do mundane things like starting an app and lost the ability to do even the most trivial of customisations without writing code.
Sure, one has to remove the current app screen on a smartphone that has 150k pixels all up, in order to show the menu. Doing this on my laptop that has ten times more is nonsense. Plenty of space for everything.
DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 9, 2012 1:23 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
> The problem with Gnome 3 (G)UI change is that it addressed a problem nobody had: how to do single tasking efficiently.
That's a completely bogus statement. There isn't much to discuss further, unfortunately.
DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 9, 2012 8:11 UTC (Mon) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
You probably didn't read the design documents that explain the rationale of the UI changes then. Paraphrase: users must be uninterrupted and focused on their task. Sounds a lot like a text terminal to me...
DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 9, 2012 15:02 UTC (Mon) by pkolloch (subscriber, #21709) [Link]
I guess your intention was to ridicule Gnome 3 but it touches something true for me.
In the 90s I used to retreat to text console only from time to time and I felt incredibly productive. It made it very easy to focus on the task for me.
Now, it might not be a surprise to you that I love Gnome 3 except of some details (chatting feels awful to me).
With all the complaining about Gnome 3 I wonder if it is possible to create a good shell for everyone.
DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 12, 2012 0:53 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link]
> In the 90s I used to retreat to text console only from time to time and I felt incredibly productive. It made it very easy to focus on the task for me.
Nobody is doubting the usefulness of being left along with the task at hand. It's just that Gnome 2 could do that just fine, if with minor tweaks (autohide panel, turn off notifications, maximise window). Forcing everyone to endure constant expose animations and change of views just to achieve the supposed peace was the mistake I was talking about.
And, of course, you now have to write Javascript code (or convince someone to do it), to (re)move an icon, for instance. Totally ridiculous.
DiCarlo: Everybody hates Firefox updates Posted Jul 12, 2012 20:58 UTC (Thu) by dashesy (subscriber, #74652) [Link]
I almost always use maximized windows (more and more applications support tabbed environment BTW), but maximized window does not span to my second monitor. This makes Gnome 2 more effective IMO.
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