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'You have to divulge your private key' meme'You have to divulge your private key' memePosted Jul 3, 2012 2:26 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)In reply to: 'You have to divulge your private key' meme by dgm Parent article: The FSF's advice to distributors on UEFI secure boot
That is harsh. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt unless there was a clear reputation for unreasoning behavior.
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'You have to divulge your private key' meme Posted Jul 3, 2012 5:14 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]
I think.. at this point.. its would be best for all of us if Canonical would take the time to schedule a meeting with the FSF to further clarify any remaining liability concerns that is not addressed in the FSF statement to their satifaction.
I think the FSF has done all that can be reasonably expected to clear up any misconceptions in the public statements from Canonical so far. Now the ball is pretty much in Canonical's court. If they or their partners still have lingering concerns they really need to reach out and engage the FSF in a dialogue, even at this late date in their decision making process. And then the FSF can follow-up on that discussion with an addendum to their advice statement to further clarify their public advice statement.
Anything else the rest of us want to talk about is basically just navel gazing for no real benefit. The FSF has addressed the publicly stated concern from Canonical in full. If Canonical or their partners have yet more concerns they have not made public, then they need to either have a private conversation with the FSF about them, or make the concerns public so the FSF can address them for the benefit for other distributors as well. Benefit of the doubt only gets you so far. At some point you actually need to sit down with the other party and have a discussion. The FSF has opened the door, Canonical just needs to task someone to walk through it.
-jef
'You have to divulge your private key' meme Posted Jul 4, 2012 9:53 UTC (Wed) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]
OK, maybe I have been a bit harsh. I apologize for that.
But it all sounds much like the modus operandi of certain patent expert guy that used to post here. Insisting over and over on the same baseless arguments, even after multiple rebuttals.
'You have to divulge your private key' meme Posted Jul 4, 2012 17:13 UTC (Wed) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]
I know what you mean, if I notice that the same person keeps popping up with the same discredited arguments then I know they aren't legitimately having a discussion in good faith and I put them in the LWN kill file. Life is too short to talk to people who just want to argue.
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