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EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation

EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation

Posted Jun 20, 2012 17:58 UTC (Wed) by tterribe (✭ supporter ✭, #66972)
In reply to: EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation by dashesy
Parent article: EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation

> In designing codecs (and places where advanced math techniques are
> required to solve a practical problem with limited resources) at least a
> certain degree of real innovation is required.

Speaking as someone who designs codecs for a living, I'm going to have to call BS here. I'll just quote http://wiki.xiph.org/A_Digital_Media_Primer_For_Geeks_%28...

"Digital media, compression especially, is perceived to be super-elite, somehow incredibly more difficult than anything else in computer science. ... This is bunk. Digital audio and video and streaming and compression offer endless deep and stimulating mental challenges... just like any other discipline."

Personally, I don't claim to have ever done anything innovative in my entire career. _Everything_ I've done has been small, "obvious", incremental steps built on top of someone else's work, just like in every other software field. And most actual patents in this space are for exceptionally narrow "innovations" that have very little value themselves (it's usually trivial to accomplish the same things in a slightly different manner), but gain their value solely because they happen to cover the exact thing done in some standard.

The concept is called "patent hold-up". We discuss it extensively here: http://xiph.org/press/2011/ftc/

For an excellent summary of how standards production itself is harmed, not helped, by patents, see http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora/2010-April/003769....


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EFF Launches New Patent Reform Project to Defend Innovation

Posted Jun 21, 2012 10:29 UTC (Thu) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]

>Speaking as someone who designs codecs for a living, I'm going to have to call BS here. I'll just quote http://wiki.xiph.org/A_Digital_Media_Primer_For_Geeks_%28...

BTW I heartily recommend this to anyone who hasn't seen it yet; it's a really good introduction.

Still waiting for the promised episode 2 :P.

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