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On meritocracyOn meritocracyPosted Jun 17, 2012 11:32 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091)In reply to: On meritocracy by dlang Parent article: On mocking If you talk from experience, I feel sorry. I have worked in a lot of places, sometimes with mocking bosses and colleagues but most often not. I have learned much more when everyone was respectful with each other's work, so that is what I try to do with others.
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On meritocracy Posted Jun 17, 2012 22:44 UTC (Sun) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
it's not just the places where I work,
it may be called 'infighting' 'backbiting' or simply 'office politics', but negative comments on other people's work exist everywhere. This sort of thing is legendary in academia for example.
this isn't mutually exclusive with respecting the work of other people either.
In Linux development, some of Linus' harshest comments go to his most trusted lieutenants. this is the "you should have known better" or "I expected better from you" factor.
But let's take a look at the "horrible" culture of the Linux-Kernel mailing list.
how many "mocking" comments are made a month? I'd be surprised if there were more than a couple dozen. This is out of tens of thousands of messages.
are you really sure that negative comments in other fields are at at a ratio of less than 1 in 1000?
On meritocracy Posted Jun 18, 2012 11:48 UTC (Mon) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] In Linux development, some of Linus' harshest comments go to his most trusted lieutenants. this is the "you should have known better" or "I expected better from you" factor.This is normally fine, and harmless. If you've known someone for a long time, you generally *can* get away with that sort of thing -- the only possible harm from this is people being driven away by watching it, and this is unlikely if (as generally happens) the lieutenant laughs it off (modulo only language problems that may make that sort of implication hard for the third party to make). The worrying thing is when people extend that treatment to people they haven't known for a long time. This is much less common on l-k than it was -- l-k is getting better -- and l-k is definitely not the worst place in the free software community for that sort of thing. It's just the largest and most visible.
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