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The new "community" Mandriva

The new "community" Mandriva

Posted May 24, 2012 5:39 UTC (Thu) by remmy (subscriber, #4400)
Parent article: The new "community" Mandriva

> Some of the listed reasons are perplexing.

What's perplexing about them? Mageia was formed to escape from the politics and financial woes that plagued Mandriva. It has taken a lot of time and effort to get to where Mageia currently stands, and I can well understand that people don't want to get dragged back into that.

The people who started Mageia took a big leap and made it safely to the other side. Should they now jump back and try once more to get where they already are?

Furthermore, I fail to see what is in it for Mageia. There is no incentive for Mageia to get involved in this. If both communities operate as they state they (intend to) operate, nothing prohibits anyone from collaborating in the best interest of both distributions.

>Clearly the first two indicate that the project thought Mandriva SA should simply adopt Mageia as its community distribution as-is. That would offer technical challenges, since the two projects have diverged in key areas since the original split (package managers, for example), as well as trademark issues.

>The company's server offering, however, will be based on Mageia.

Perhaps it's just me, but the author of this article seems to contradict himself here. First he calls it perplexing that it is suggested to use Mageia's RPM offering for the new Mandriva, but is the reverse situation (as hinted at in the first quote) any less perplexing? And when it comes to mentioning the server distribution to be based on Mageia, it is completely ignored as being a potential issue.

Cooperation is fine and welcomed. Suggesting that it now is Mageia that should make up with Mandriva and invest time and energy into that, is what seems most perplexing to me.


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The new "community" Mandriva

Posted May 24, 2012 15:55 UTC (Thu) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link]

There is also a whole thread on the council ml about this :
https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-03/msg00078.html

( 14 Mar 2012 , if the sympa archive make your life difficult ).

But the main reason is simple.
"people are free to do what they want". A group of volunteer cannot do much besides doing the work itself. So if no one stepped to participate, the project can just state the obvious. There is no CTO to say "you will work on this as part as your job".

And while it is quite exciting to be part as something new for Mandriva people ( as some have invested lots of time in this ), it seems obvious to me that this is less exciting for people who did it 2 years ago. Would have Mageia turned out to be a fiasco, yeah, I am sure people would have participated and tried again ( Mageia was not the first attempt to have a community project, but it is so far the most successful ). But it is working fine, so no one feel the urge to start again almost from scratch.

And I am sure than with a more concrete proposal ( because that's always the main point, everybody is ok to collaborate, but what does that mean in practice is much more complex ), things could change.

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