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Revisiting RPM Package ManagementRevisiting RPM Package ManagementPosted Sep 18, 2003 2:17 UTC (Thu) by vblum (subscriber, #1151)Parent article: Revisiting RPM Package Management
ahem ... a comment from the unenlightened - what exactly does <all other distro's> Are you speaking of dependencies w.r.t. externally provided packages? (Honestly, the alleged problem with SuSE is not clear to me - maybe because SuSE updates
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Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Sep 18, 2003 2:41 UTC (Thu) by ladislav (guest, #247) [Link] SuSE's YaST (or more specifically YOU - YaST Online Update) does indeed resolves dependencies from its own distribution and officially sanctioned updates. However, it does not provide a means to add third party repositories with package updates or other software not supplied by SuSE. As such, you cannot use YaST for updating say KDE to the latest version; you have to do it either manually or install a third-party package management tool, such as apt-get. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Sep 18, 2003 9:48 UTC (Thu) by petebull (subscriber, #7857) [Link] I correct you.With SuSE-8.2 one can add additional package sources. I have installed SuSE-8.2 via FTP and later added the installation source for KDE-3.1.3 and Yast2 installed the packages for me. Have a look at http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_8.2/yast-source/
Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Sep 18, 2003 10:28 UTC (Thu) by leandro (guest, #1460) [Link] > what exactly does all other distro's dependency resolution provide that SuSE's yast2 does not? Freedom. Yast is proprietary.
Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Sep 18, 2003 11:30 UTC (Thu) by RobDavies (guest, #9930) [Link] YaST license only fails the OSI Open Source definition, because it doesnot permit re-distribution for a fee. Full source is provided and modifications are permitted, so simply labelling it 'proprietary' is an over-simplification.
Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Sep 18, 2003 18:25 UTC (Thu) by vblum (subscriber, #1151) [Link] > Freedom. Yast is proprietary.1) you are right, Freedom would be nice. Why? It is a key mistake of "the Linux industry" to not settle on a common installation / sysadmin interface / GUI framework. This repeats the fragmentation of unix (if you extrapolate a few years ahead). It's extremely annoying that you have to relearn all that stuff for every single new distribution. This will ultimately scare users back to Windows (one distributor = relative consistency; monopolies are great for that). OSDL might be the place to settle that issue; it may seem trivial, but having to administer RH, SuSE at the same time is really annoying due to lack of consistency between them in little things. 2) Freedom is not a requirement for a working package management system, though - which is the topic of the article. SuSE does have that, as far as end users are concerned. cheers V.
Revisiting RPM Package Management Posted Jan 6, 2004 17:49 UTC (Tue) by leandro (guest, #1460) [Link] > Freedom is not a requirement for a working package management system, though - which is the topic of the article. SuSE does have that, as far as end users are concerned. For me and for thousands other freedom is a requirement. Just because one's an end user it doesn't mean one abdicates from freedom.
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