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No one was censored here. Linux Format were allowed to produce and sell their magazine in whatever way they could accomplish.
B&N took their legitimate right not to sell something they considered morally questionable. Just like Walgreen's don't sell KKK memorabilia or how NPR don't run advertising for the hardcore porn.
B&N's right to choose what they do and not find appropriate to sell is as absolute as Linux Format's right to publish what *they* find appropriate.
No one was censored
Posted May 5, 2012 11:04 UTC (Sat) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167)
The behaviour of the major cinema chains in the US has the _effect_ of distorting the use of movie ratings and making a supposedly private commercial outfit into effectively a government censor. And they seem, if anything, overjoyed to be granted this power.
Or another example, small US states are legally permitted to buy any school textbooks they like, but in practice the textbook makers are most responsive to the rules laid down by the most populous states. If those states don't want a particular element of Geography, History or Mathematics taught, it does not get taught by textbooks even in the states that don't have such rules.
Posted May 5, 2012 13:28 UTC (Sat) by clump (subscriber, #27801)
Posted May 5, 2012 19:04 UTC (Sat) by gowen (guest, #23914)
Fair enough. Care to fill in the brackets? Who is going to tell B&N what they are morally obligated to sell? Would that not make *them* the effective censor, only their criteria would be ... -- something unknown other than commerce?
Posted May 5, 2012 19:23 UTC (Sat) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167)
No. Care to read more carefully and try again?
Posted May 6, 2012 5:40 UTC (Sun) by gowen (guest, #23914)
Perhaps you should write it again more carefully.
Posted May 6, 2012 17:18 UTC (Sun) by clump (subscriber, #27801)
However, the global effect of such commercial decisions can effectively add up to censorship. We should pay attention _before_ that happens, because afterwards it can be too late to get it changed without momentous cultural shifts.
Sidestepping political conversation, there are ways to address the issue. As others have noted, you can change the title of the article. You can also apply pressure to the retailer. You can open your own book store. You can work hard to write things that will not offend others. Whether you should have to do those things is another discussion entirely.
Posted May 7, 2012 15:39 UTC (Mon) by misiu_mp (guest, #41936)
Posted May 7, 2012 17:22 UTC (Mon) by spaetz (subscriber, #32870)
Posted May 18, 2012 20:55 UTC (Fri) by steffen780 (guest, #68142)
Though you are of course right to point out that B&N has apparently not actually done this - nevertheless, it's still not a "nothing to see, move along" thing. This kinda stuff does happens routinely, maybe not by B&N, but Google&Apple certainly do it as SOP.
Posted May 5, 2012 19:57 UTC (Sat) by bjartur (guest, #67801)
What's really bothersome is the bundling of tangentially related services. Even if B&N may have developed an excellent payment system and handy e-readers, they should not be able to and allowed to seize control over the technology to greatly deter users from reading material not on their whitelist.
B&N should of course not be forced to advertise articles on cracking. But we must make sure that if they didn't advertise and distribute articles on cracking, it wouldn't matter unless everyone else on the Internet also decided to neither distribute nor read material on cracking.
Ideally B&N should publish a blacklist of reading material on cracking that you probably shouldn't read. Then whoever doesn't want to read material on cracking can filter that out and keep on with their lives believing that they're computer systems might be secure.
Posted May 5, 2012 20:13 UTC (Sat) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
If I don't know stuff like this then I may make the mistake of thinking that shopping at B&N would be a good ideas.
Posted May 7, 2012 6:37 UTC (Mon) by Seegras (subscriber, #20463)
Oh wait, were you talking about something else not related to "cracking"?
Posted May 6, 2012 0:25 UTC (Sun) by JoeF (subscriber, #4486)
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