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The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum)The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum)Posted Apr 30, 2012 5:59 UTC (Mon) by kolla (guest, #23560)In reply to: The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) by jospoortvliet Parent article: The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum)
As I see it, the world has not moved on on the desktop, rather the contrary, it has been standing still and even gone backwards in many ways. The desktops on Linux seem to have one aim, and that is to resemble Windows as much as possile in order to atract "most users", which for me renders them totally uninteresting. I much rather use a working Windows installation than a broken wannabe, and I think that's what "most users" also think. Linux is good for a lot of things, I'm a Linux user since pre 1.0 days and been using it on a whole range of archs, but these days I'm giving up on Linux for anything else than "embedded" and server use, the deskop environments offered for Linux are just way too bloated, bling-centric and dumb, so my reasons for leaving Linux on desktop are the same now that I had for not liking Windows earlier. Not that I'm that much fond of OSX either, but at least it is rather consistant and somewhat snappy on Apple hardware. Funny to see Linux zealots bad-mouhing alternatives, the irony is striking.
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The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 6:02 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
Sure, it's fun. However, can you point out how BeOS is different from Windows?
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 6:41 UTC (Mon) by kolla (guest, #23560) [Link]
Why, you don't know?
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 7:34 UTC (Mon) by drag (subscriber, #31333) [Link]
I'd say it's much less obvious then you think it is.
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 7:51 UTC (Mon) by Pawlerson (guest, #74136) [Link] Funny to see Linux zealots bad-mouhing alternatives, the irony is striking.In case you didn't notice the Haiku zealots are bad-mouthing Linux. The reality shows where this haiku is and it's nowhere. Puppy Linux kill it!
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 11:54 UTC (Mon) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]
> In case you didn't notice the Haiku zealots are bad-mouthing Linux.
I read this is justifying another free OS by pointing out deficiencies of the popular one.
It's not necessary for Haiku to beat Linux of today in its R1 release, it just needs to beat Linux of 2001 (that is, after all, its goal: Be BeOS in 2001). With the R2 release in 2015 or so we will see whether it's going anywhere worthwhile or whether it simply can't compete.
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 14:53 UTC (Mon) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
I doesn't matter who is bad mouthing whom; it's all very juvenile and tiresome.
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 9:28 UTC (Mon) by bricef (guest, #80336) [Link] The desktops on Linux seem to have one aim, and that is to resemble Windows as much as possile Or worse, Mac... What is it with copying bad ideas from someone simple because they're successful? Bad usability is bad usability. Even if they get it right most of the time, that isn't a good reason to copy everything they do without rubbing two braincells together first. the deskop environments offered for Linux are just way too bloated, bling-centric and dumb Really? Archlinux/wmii or Archlinux/Openbox are bloated and bling-centric? Could have fooled me... Seriously, Your desktop is what you make it. Unity makes me want to pluck my eyes out as much as the next hacker, but it isn't fair to say that the desktop environments offered on Linux are all crap because you didn't do the research properly. Instead of complaining that a solution hasn't fallen in your lap, take responsibility for turning your desktop into a powerful tool.
The Dawn of Haiku OS (Spectrum) Posted Apr 30, 2012 15:52 UTC (Mon) by Doogie (guest, #59626) [Link] Funny to see Linux zealots bad-mouhing alternatives, the irony is striking.Pointing out that some people have not moved beyond the same silly advocacy arguments from two decades ago is not "bad mouthing alternatives". Haiku may well be fantastic, but arguing that it has "multimedia built in" is not going to convince me.
people do not use a computer to use it's desktop Posted Apr 30, 2012 16:21 UTC (Mon) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
people do not use a computer to use it's desktop, they use the computer to get things done (either to play games, access the web, e-mail, write documents, watch video, etc)
a desktop either makes this easy or makes this hard depending on how it gets in the way of the user or assists the user.
Far too many desktop developers seem to think that the Desktop Environment is the end purpose of the computer, rather than just a means to get other stuff done.
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