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he who shalt meth with rogues...

he who shalt meth with rogues...

Posted Apr 27, 2012 22:11 UTC (Fri) by gvy (guest, #11981)
In reply to: he who shalt meth with rogues... by proyvind
Parent article: Whither Mandriva?

There are different gangs pretty anywhere money is involved with but it'd be interesting to learn of that 100% number you gave -- whom did you refer to? :)

Re translation, I am a professional interpreter (think a bit more so than google translate) and stand by my words. I should have cited the whole phrase, ack; still it was pretty late in the night already, sorry.

The bit that I offered to you personally was a public statement that DEW's heads "lot of talk and write in English" in spite of you complaining of them taking the discussions away into Russian-speaking places: my point is that this particular "a lot" obviously doesn't sit well enough with the existing team while being touted as an achievement.

For the record, I criticized (and to some extent derailed having somewhat higher level of English knowledge) attempts by a few folks to push English in devel@altlinux *exactly* for "cultural space" reasons: language isn't the thing to fool around with, in short.

And I still wish luck to Mandriva, but obviously not to the raiders.


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he who shalt meth with rogues...

Posted Apr 27, 2012 23:54 UTC (Fri) by proyvind (guest, #74683) [Link]

Well, I guess I misread the actual size of stake Rostekhnologii acquired in Alt Linux back in 2010, but it's still not something that makes the point moot..

Anyways, I can't remember you ever not conducting your Komissarv/ROSA vendetta in any thread I see you post to, this is just getting sad and pathetic, no matter how right and justified you might've even been initially, you're just making yourself look like a compulsive, sad person.
Especially when you manipulate things that Eugene Sokolov (which I know personally, and that I can vouche for that would never ever imply such a thing as you accuse him of) in such a fashion, that's just mean and spiteful. Eugene Sokolov is a great and very friendly guy who certainly doesn't deserve the level of trashtalk and accusations you throw at him.

Get something better to do, I don't think anyone ever cares (except for rolling their eyes, and probably getting really tired) about what you keep repetetively write on and on about the same topics whenever you get the chance, regardless of how off-topic it is and how you completely disregard the actual discussions, articles, threads and what not you pollute with your trolling.
This is getting old, you know better, and have better skills and better thing to do.
For what it's worth, I fully respect you, but not this behaviour of yours and it's really making you look like a much more obsessive and deranged person than that I know you really are.

If you want to keep on with this stuff, do it somewhere else where we don't have to listen to it, we have no interest in getting involved in your political feuds with people that most often doesn't directly concern us, but surely your approach is something that we do start to find offensive and slanderous, for which we simply don't think should be the target of..

don't get me wrong but vendetta is a correct term indeed

Posted May 29, 2012 7:21 UTC (Tue) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]

> but it's still not something that makes the point moot..
It actually does since you implied the decision makers wrongly (if I got you right of course).

Re vendetta, let me see you sit down looking at someone trying to destroy your family. These bastards have taken over the Russian school project in its coutry-wide deployment phase and have failed it horribly doing LOTS of damage to teachers and making lots of them hostile to free software pushed down their throats with no sane support.

These people also tried to steal team members and technology behind our backs -- heck, I personally gave advice on build system to Denis Koryavov since I trusted him and he didn't tell that he works for Komissarov already knowing that I wouldn't support him then.

It's about doing wrong things and spreading lies. And by defending liars you won't gain anything as a honest person (which you are as far as I can tell from our conversations and Jeff's recommendation).

You won't stop me. FYI, Komissarov tried and I know it; but he failed altogether. And *please* do understand that I actually waited for too long before digging out the battle axe in the hopes of their sanity.

But it won't concern only me, when one starts doing wrong it's ever harder to stop. Wish they don't manage to hurt you as much, but look out either.

Good luck Per, and God bless you.

he who shalt meth with rogues...

Posted May 29, 2012 20:35 UTC (Tue) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]

PS: I'll take your word on Eugene's intent (or the lack thereof).

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