Whither Mandriva? [LWN.net]

Whither Mandriva?

Posted Apr 26, 2012 21:52 UTC (Thu) by proyvind (guest, #74683)
In reply to: Whither Mandriva? by ovitters
Parent article: Whither Mandriva?

At the time of what I referred to and criticized, there wasn't anything suggesting this at all, given the fact that Mandriva had just been saved by the new Russian investors, and that there was a general assembly taking place on a friday, the day before Mageia being announced on a Satuday, where they knowingly of it's outcome and news to be published about it, made maliciously false claims about Mandriva's future and claims about it going out of businiss within the next weeks right before the news from the general assembly was made public on the following Sunday which more than dismissed this false claim.

And no, not lots of people had to be let go, noone at Conectiva was let go of, and for in Paris, almost every person who left, did this by declining the contract offer to continue working for Mandriva after Edge-IT liquidation, not due to actually being let go against their will (Anne even was offered a new contract by Komissaov, but then declined as they already had made their own plans..).

Please reread my comment again, and for the record, I'm not criticizing, I'm disclosing facts previously hidden and also I'm more judging than criticizing, with every right to do so, as I was there and have true insight on the turn of events that took place.

But I'm not intending to go much further into details about this, as it touches more sensitive issues concerning peoples' former employment and also implicates those being mentioned..

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Whither Mandriva?

Posted May 1, 2012 17:20 UTC (Tue) by boklm (subscriber, #34568) [Link]

For information, proyvind was not working for Mandriva or Edge-it at the time, and was not involved in this at all.

About this "new contract" proyvind keep talking about, for me there were various reasons to refuse a new contract :
- Their plan was to move all Mandriva debts to Edge-IT, and close Edge-IT to get rid of the debts. I'm not sure about the legality of this, and didn't really want to be involved in something like this.
- Edge-IT was already in the process of closing when they made a proposal to some of us (and only to a few people which is I think not legal according to french laws). I don't think it would have been legally possible to change contract at this point in time when the process of closing Edge-IT was started and not finished.
- the proposal they made to some of us was something like this: you sign an Edge-IT resignation letter 1 month in the past (before the process of closing Edge-IT was started), and a Mandriva contract also 1 month in the past. I don't think signing papers dated in the past is legal.
- for various reasons that I will not take the time to explain here I didn't trust those people, and knew that I didn't want to work with those people after seeing how they managed the company in the past months
- I was not convinced at all by what they agreed to tell us about their plans
- mandriva employees were still not getting they salary paid in time so signing a new contract there seemed a little risky
- in France, in case of economic layoff, you get some money, and can continue to be paid for some time while unemployed, so I though it was much better to wait until the end of Edge-IT which was coming soon, and then spend some time to think about what to do next.

And I can add that they decided alone to fire all edge-it people, didn't discuss this with people before it was done, and when asking questions about future of the company we were explained a few times that it's not our business to think about this. So it's not really surprising that people refused to sign a new contract.

I will not take the time to correct all the other "facts", but they are equally wrong.

Whither Mandriva?

Posted May 1, 2012 18:57 UTC (Tue) by Los__D (guest, #15263) [Link]

Now that doesn't sound shady at all... *cough*

Sounds like the right choice to get out of there.