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Not AgainNot AgainPosted Apr 17, 2012 2:27 UTC (Tue) by szoth (guest, #14825)In reply to: Not Again by brianomahoney Parent article: PHP: a fractal of bad design (fuzzy notepad)
You racism has no place here or anywhere else.
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Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 17, 2012 4:03 UTC (Tue) by brianomahoney (subscriber, #6206) [Link]
What racism, a view that American (Caucasian, unstated, but if the cap fits, wear it) Lefty Progressive shits replay the same nonsense every 10 years is some how racist?
Take your head out your ideology for long enough to see that my post is IDIOTist, not RACist.
Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 17, 2012 4:17 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
I'm a card carrying member of the Communist Party of Russia I can state that the US 'lefties' are non-existent. The US has a right-wing and an extremely-right-wing party.
PS: yes, I really have a membership card, it makes a great conversation starter :) That's why I got it in the first place.
PPS: What? Politics on LWN?!? Are we turning into Slashdot?!??? Help!
Not Again, Racism, Communism Posted Apr 17, 2012 4:45 UTC (Tue) by brianomahoney (subscriber, #6206) [Link]
Your membership of the Communist party of the erstwhile CCCP is interesting but I would advise keeping your sins from Putin, but is not germain to the discussion except that you are simply unaable to see a point of view other than your own, which is naive and arrogant in the extreem.
No one is telling you what to write in, ML, Lisp ... C++, that is Libertarian just to STFU about others, but we know, and most of us now simply ignore your nonsene.
Thank you for starting the firestorm of intolerance that I wanted to illustrate!
Not Again, Racism, Communism Posted Apr 17, 2012 6:06 UTC (Tue) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
I'm perfectly able to see others' view, if it's reasonable.
We can argue about usefulness of DSLs or about the ways to extend JS. I can see that ML and Haskell people have some great arguments in favor of their language.
However, your arguments in favor of PHP can be summed as: "Basic is worse than PHP, so PHP is good".
That's kinda... weak.
Not Again, Racism, Communism Posted Apr 17, 2012 20:10 UTC (Tue) by jzbiciak (✭ supporter ✭, #5246) [Link] Or to phrase it as a political joke I've heard here in the states, "Both parties are bad, so vote Republican." (I don't, BTW.) Looking through that (lengthy) article, I think Edsger Dijkstra's comment on BASIC may also apply to people who've only coded in PHP: It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration. Granted, this is coming from the same person who said gotos are bad without exception. I think reality is a bit more subtle than such stark pronouncements. PHP's suckiness, though, appears to be anything but subtle. Glad I stayed away from it.
Mentally mutilated Posted Apr 18, 2012 15:59 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] I am probably tainted by my humble beginnings with Amstrad BASIC, but I have programmed in Pascal, Perl, Python, C, Java, JavaScript, PL/SQL, even Bash; but I kind of like PHP. It lets you do what you want quickly and it is not so full of itself as Python.That is all. I just wanted to add a Leftist vote for PHP. Please don't flame me.
Mentally mutilated Posted Apr 18, 2012 18:11 UTC (Wed) by juliank (subscriber, #45896) [Link]
You started with BASIC? You know, "It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."
Mentally mutilated Posted Apr 18, 2012 18:34 UTC (Wed) by man_ls (subscriber, #15091) [Link] Well, what can you do. At least it was not Visual Basic; and my first programs were really Spectrum Basic. Actually I have very fond memories of GFA basic. When I recoded the 3D graphic application I did for the Atari ST in 68k assembler, for speed gains, I was ultimately unable to debug it, probably due to the massive brain damage inflicted by the various Basic dialects.That was when I was young and agile, now that I am older I have learned not to do anything too clever in my code.
Not Again, Racism, Communism Posted Apr 17, 2012 11:19 UTC (Tue) by AndreE (subscriber, #60148) [Link]
I think I know whose nonsense most of us will be ignoring from now on.
Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 18, 2012 16:13 UTC (Wed) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link] The US has a right-wing and an extremely-right-wing party. That's an interesting perspective. Placing myself into your view of the U.S. political system leaves me pining for an extra extreme right-wing party. :)
Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 19, 2012 14:03 UTC (Thu) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
>That's an interesting perspective. Placing myself into your view of the U.S. political system leaves me pining for an extra extreme right-wing party. :)
I'm confused - are you saying that you want a party even more right-wing than the US Republican party or have I misunderstood?
(BTW from the UK perspective I believe the US Democrat party would probably be unelectably right-wing.)
Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 19, 2012 14:51 UTC (Thu) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] I'm not sure the Democrats are that much to the right of Maggie's incarnation of the Tories.
Not Again, Racism Posted Apr 21, 2012 15:47 UTC (Sat) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
> I'm confused -
You said it, not me. ;)
> are you saying that you want a party even more right-wing than the US Republican party or have I misunderstood?
Yes. A party that runs up 4.9 trillion dollars in debt in just 8 years (2000-2008) is not conserving anything.
please cut the politics Posted Apr 21, 2012 16:24 UTC (Sat) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
this isn't the appropriate place for such things
please cut the politics Posted Apr 22, 2012 22:12 UTC (Sun) by tjc (subscriber, #137) [Link]
Fear not: I shall not don my hairy breeches and begin preaching, at least not this time. :)
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