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Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 11:07 UTC (Mon) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
In reply to: Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities by jcm
Parent article: Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

The vast majority of computer users are still running Microsoft Windows. If they're actively engaging with the Open Source community, then there's a chance for greater adoption of Open Source by Microsoft's large user base.

I don't believe that follows. The vast majority of computer users who run Windows are simple-minded sheep who use Word, Excel, Internet Explorer and Outlook and are not even aware that proprietary alternatives exist, let alone open-source ones.

If we want to win market share, we have to do that on our own. An alliance with Microsoft won't help that one little bit.


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Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 18:34 UTC (Mon) by sjj (subscriber, #2020) [Link]

"The vast majority of computer users who run Windows are simple-minded sheep..."

What a great way to win friends and influence! Insult your potential users, don't engage them.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 19:39 UTC (Mon) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

And my statement was inaccurate... how?

Hey, I'm less insulting than Balmer. At least I didn't call Windows users "a cancer".

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 19:41 UTC (Mon) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

Perhaps I should have been clearer: The vast majority of Windows users are simple-minded sheep when it comes to technical questions like the choice of software.

Of course, I do not mean to imply that non-technical users are simple-minded sheep outside certain very specific technical areas.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 20:00 UTC (Mon) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

Calling people "simple-minded sheep" is inherently insulting. It does not matter how you qualify it.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 20:24 UTC (Mon) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

Maybe it's insulting, but it's accurate.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 20:39 UTC (Mon) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

Because you know every and all Windows users, right?. You have a brain, use it.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 17, 2012 0:27 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

I didn't say "all Windows users." I said "the vast majority" and I stand by that.

The vast majority of Windows users didn't specifically choose the software they run. The run whatever came on their computer and are probably completely unaware that a non-Windows computer is even possible.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 16, 2012 20:40 UTC (Mon) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Don't troll. It's deeply insulting and wildly inaccurate. You have no way to judge a person's intelligence even in technical matters just because he or she is using Windows or any other operating system for that matter.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 17, 2012 0:29 UTC (Tue) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link]

I'm not trolling. It's absolutely a fact that most Windows users use Windows because it came with their computer and are unaware of alternatives (or even the possibility of alternatives).

If you'd spent even one day doing end-user consumer-level PC support, you'd know that what I say is accurate.

Paoli: Microsoft will engage with the open source and standards communities

Posted Apr 17, 2012 1:39 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Now, what you are saying about users being unaware of alternatives is true but that absolutely does NOT make them 'simple minded sheep' in any way. That is pure trolling. You need to stop doing that.

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