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Window manager varietyWindow manager varietyPosted Apr 11, 2012 22:00 UTC (Wed) by apoelstra (subscriber, #75205)In reply to: Window manager variety by alankila Parent article: LFCS 2012: X and Wayland
>We don't need 20 window managers, just 1 good enough one.
Would you like a window manager with 10-pixel-high title bars, which automatically positions windows in a tiled layout, which can be rearranged using the vi keys?
Perhaps you would. I wouldn't have it any other way.
But given the relative popularity of metacity and kwin, I suspect that most people would disagree -- and that is why we have 20 different window managers. Because nobody agrees on what "good" even means, let alone "good enough".
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Window manager variety Posted Apr 11, 2012 22:12 UTC (Wed) by fluxion (subscriber, #62978) [Link]
indeed. so long as everyone agrees that xmonad is the one window manager to rule them all and should serve as the reference, i fully agree with picking just 1. of course, that's an absurd thing to expect.
Window manager variety Posted Apr 12, 2012 5:33 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
It's quite possible that there'll be one basic WM with a lot of configurable hooks for all sorts of customizations. Say, for automatic windows positioning.
Window manager variety Posted Apr 12, 2012 12:06 UTC (Thu) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106) [Link]
If it were possible for there to be a WM like this that was sufficiently configurable such that users of ratpoison, E17 and kwin (just as a sample) could all be switched to it without noticing the difference, don't you think it would have been developed by now? Nothing today or for a long time has prevented this, but it never happened. Why? What do you think has changed that will make this happen now?
Window manager variety Posted Apr 12, 2012 16:11 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
Why?
It's simply that nobody cares much. I've seen a tiled window manager for Windows, btw.
Window manager variety Posted Apr 12, 2012 14:31 UTC (Thu) by alankila (subscriber, #47141) [Link]
I work mostly in fullscreen apps, with no operating system chrome visible at all. So... I can live with a tiling window manager that can display exactly 1 window.
Window manager variety Posted Apr 27, 2012 5:58 UTC (Fri) by Duncan (guest, #6647) [Link]
Of course that, or something very close to it, is already possible with kwin. Reasonably current kwin is tiling capable, titlebar height (and lots more) is configurable, and as with any self-respecting kde app, all major triggerable functionality is mapped to configurable hotkeys.
FWIW, my kde is highly customized as a sort-of hybrid tiling/floating mixture, with floating dominating, but various windows configured to specific sizes and/or locations, including two dominant themes of maxed-Y/half-maxed-X for side-by-side for things like browsers and terminal windows, and maxed-X/almost-maxed-Y, lacking only titlebar height (and sometimes no-border so I get full app height as if it had the titlebar anyway), for things like tri-pane mail, news and feed-reader clients. Combined with (sloppy) focus follows mouse, click-to-raise and with semi-transparent inactive, that lets me work with either the two side-by-side windows or with the almost-maxed and a half-maxed window concurrently, or with all three windows, the back half-maxed one viewable when focused (but not raised) thru the semi-transparent inactive almost-maxed window above it.
It sounds horrible I know, but there's a productive workflow there that I've grown to depend on, and I was VERY unhappy when an earlier version of it broke with my transfer from kde3 to supposedly ready but still in reality VERY early alpha quality kde4. Fortunately I was able to work around or find alternate solutions for the broken bits, and kde4 itself has improved dramatically since then, such that at least with semantic-desktop not only turned off but actually compiled out (gentoo, USE=-semantic-desktop), I can honestly say I'm enjoying kde4 as much if not more than I did late kde3, now.
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