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Cinnamon 1.4 releasedCinnamon 1.4 releasedPosted Mar 20, 2012 8:02 UTC (Tue) by jku (subscriber, #42379)In reply to: Cinnamon 1.4 released by donbarry Parent article: Cinnamon 1.4 released
"Perhaps users who see the desktop as cellphone: play with one app for several minutes, switch to one other for several more minutes of amusement, will find it a useful paradigm".
No need to start the whole GNOME3 discussion here too but I will offer friendly advice: belittling the other side is rarely a good opening gambit, expressing ones frustration is usually possible without doing that.
Some people find GNOME3 a productive environment while you and others do not.
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Cinnamon 1.4 released Posted Mar 20, 2012 13:11 UTC (Tue) by nevets (subscriber, #11875) [Link]
> expressing ones frustration is usually possible without doing that
It is possible, but it is very hard to do. Especially when you feel that you are being belittled when the developers just tell you to deal with it, you will eventually like it. That causes more hostility than frustration.
But I agree, keeping emotion out of the discussion is probably more productive. I know I have said a lot of things about Gnome3 out of emotion than anything else. But it just feels so good to do that :-)
Cinnamon 1.4 released Posted Mar 20, 2012 14:02 UTC (Tue) by danieldk (guest, #27876) [Link]
> It is possible, but it is very hard to do. Especially when you feel that you are being belittled when the developers just tell you to deal with it, you will eventually like it.
Well, there is a historical precedent here. I remember the anger GNOME 2.0 was sometimes met with. Nowadays people want to revert back to GNOME 2 ;).
The problem is more that change is so abrupt, which gives a period where GNOME 3 is not ready for the general public and GNOME 2 is unmaintained. A slightly more evolutionary approach would have helped, I guess.
Still, I like GNOME 3.
Cinnamon 1.4 released Posted Mar 20, 2012 14:18 UTC (Tue) by nevets (subscriber, #11875) [Link]
I remember the conversion from 1 to 2, and 2 was very busted. The complaints were that there was a lot of functionality that was lost with that conversion. The result was that gnome2 went through a very painful transformation to bring back those lost features.
Yes people want to go back to gnome2, but not to the gnome2 that was released in the beginning, but to the gnome2 that grew to do what the users want.
Yes it looks very familiar, but this time around it seems that the developers are trying harder not to listen to the complaints. Instead we have Cinnamon and addons that seems to move gnome to what users want. Yes, it does seem that history is repeating itself. But I don't want to go through that pain again, and just moved to xfce. Maybe I'll come back after gnome is done with the growing pains.
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