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Wayland and Weston 0.85.0 releasedWayland and Weston 0.85.0 releasedPosted Feb 14, 2012 7:51 UTC (Tue) by Chousuke (subscriber, #54562)In reply to: Wayland and Weston 0.85.0 released by daglwn Parent article: Wayland and Weston 0.85.0 released
Unusable for you, perhaps, but you're in a very small minority. Network transparency is nice when you need it, but given that there are other options, it's far from a critical feature.
I have used X's networking capabilities a couple times, but when I as a user think about what Wayland needs before it's ready for prime time, network transparency doesn't even make the list.
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Wayland and Weston 0.85.0 released Posted Feb 14, 2012 7:57 UTC (Tue) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
If someone would find a way to run a rootless wayland server and display it on an X11 server (some sort of proxy, or a special 'video driver' in Wayland so that the X11 <-> Wayland connection was a twp-way street rather than "we're compatible, as long as you let me be in charge" most of the objections that people are having would go away. The concern over network transparency would drop because people could run Wayland apps to a remote X11 display if Wayland doesn't develop it's own network protocol.
and before you ask why I don't do it, compatibility with existing stuff is primarily the responsibility of the newcomer.
Wayland and Weston 0.85.0 released Posted Feb 14, 2012 9:53 UTC (Tue) by VITTUIX-MAN (guest, #82895) [Link]
Special video driver?
Sounds awfully similar to what Xpra does. (http://xpra.org/) It makes use of X-server running dummy frame buffer and connects into it as compositor.
I don't see why the client must speak the same language as the remote location's native windowing system does. Poeple don't complain the Unix commandline doesn't do session management on its own ether, but instead use dutifully screen. They still have to have putty installed in Windows machines which ususally isn't, how does an xpra client (or a Wayland equivalent) make any big difference? Ether don't need admistrator privileges to run.
By the way -xpra approach makes rootlessness the default behavior too.
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