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The response totally fails to answer the question: is it still a community distro if a company (rather than the community itself) gets to decide who its leader is?
Whether the appointed person is or is not a company associate is not even relevant. The question AFAICT is about who/what gets to appoint the leader, and how.
Jared Smith steps down as Fedora project leader
Posted Feb 8, 2012 15:00 UTC (Wed) by rfontana (subscriber, #52677)
Surely no one would claim that non-democratic meritocratic or pseudomeritocratic leadership-emergence models represents "the community deciding" on leadership; that would be indulging in mythology in a rather disturbing way.
Posted Feb 8, 2012 18:32 UTC (Wed) by lxoliva (subscriber, #40702)
They are elected by Fedora community members, except for one (?) seat appointed by Red Hat. Well, I guess one could argue that since there's only one position of leader, this standard is already applied: Red Hat appoints one, and the remaining are elected. But although mathematically correct, this wouldn't be a very honest argument, now would it? :-)
Now, please note I'm not saying the leader must be elected democratically by the community for Fedora to be a community project. It is however a measure of how much control over the project Red Hat wishes to withhold from the community. Maybe it would avoid such undesirable comparisons with the democratically-elected project leaders in democratic community projects if the position had a different title, say “community hoarder for Red Hat”. That would be not only more accurate, but also leave room for the community to choose their own leaders, which any actual community *will* naturally do, regardless of whatever sponsors wish and whatever positions it controls under whatever title.
Posted Feb 8, 2012 18:51 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
They are elected by Fedora community members, except for one (?) seat appointed by Red Hat."
That's not true.
"There are nine Board members: five elected by the community and four appointed by Red Hat. Volunteers and Red Hat employees are eligible for all seats, and often volunteers are appointed or Red Hat employees are elected."
I would say that, Red Hat can continue to appoint a leader if there is a real need to do so but the veto right is no longer necessary and should be removed but that argument needs more support from the community and not externally.
Posted Feb 8, 2012 19:27 UTC (Wed) by lxoliva (subscriber, #40702)
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