@LWN please stop quoting Florian Mueller.He is an unofficial microsoft employee.He is no lawyer nor a programmer.But he alleges to specialize in both.The worst thing is he analyzes US court proceedings whereas he live in Germany, with no formal training in anything he blogs about.The media attention he gets is unimaginable.When he is not even a lawyer he alleges that the judge who denied preliminary injunction against samsung galaxy Tab in california is wrong.Nilay patel is a former managing editor of Engadget and an IP lawyer in US, but florian blogs that Nilay patel is wrong in numerous circumstances. There is no credibilty in Florian's stories.He creates Linux FUD.He spins stories to attract media attention and spread FUD.
His opinions and views contradict truth and reality, and he constantly changes his stand, if you happened to read his blogs over a period of time.He spins stories that would make you believe that what he alleges is true.He rarely says anything good about opensource or companies that adopt open source.
He deliberately chooses to ignore facts when opensource software gains advantage in courts.If you keep reading his articles you would conclude that open source has no future, in the light of the lawsuits.But as you can see its not the case.
He said HTC, Motorola most likely would not be able to sell android in jan 1,2012.We are in February and that awful florian prediction is never going to happen even in future too.
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Posted Feb 7, 2012 10:01 UTC (Tue) by danielpf (subscriber, #4723)
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Indeed I would urge serious journal and web site editors to discard evoking pseudo-analysts who just spin about what they have been payed for.
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Posted Feb 7, 2012 20:15 UTC (Tue) by jra (subscriber, #55261)
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Hear Hear. Florian Mueller is the Rob Enderle of patent technology analysts/self promoters. His business model is to take money to write articles that take the side his paymasters want to be seen as an "independent" analysis.
Giving him any attention at all merely helps him build this business.
Jeremy.
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Posted Feb 8, 2012 6:32 UTC (Wed) by cmccabe (guest, #60281)
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The thing that bothers me about Florian Mueller is not that he's biased-- we all are, after all. It's just that he won't be honest about who is paying him and why. Unfortunately, there's a real dearth of actual lawyers willing to talk about issues like this.
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Posted Feb 10, 2012 11:35 UTC (Fri) by jtc (subscriber, #6246)
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"It's just that he won't be honest about who is paying him and why"...
Well, we perhaps can't tell if this was accidental or not, but the BBC, at:
"Florian Mueller, author of the Foss Patents blog who does consultancy work for Microsoft, wrote that " ...
Either Mueller admitted this to the BBC, or they found this out from a reliable source, or their source is unreliable and might be wrong. Their reputation suggests (to me, at least) that either of the 1st or 2nd possibilities are a lot more likely than the 3rd.
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Posted Feb 7, 2012 14:20 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1)
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You may have noticed that his writings do not appear here all that often. I thought this one was with enough redeeming value to post, though; sorry if you disagree.
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Posted Feb 7, 2012 16:56 UTC (Tue) by hadrons123 (guest, #72126)
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@corbet.You have extracted a piece of his quote.When you quote someone like that people tend to attach some credibility to the content.
I have been following IP lawsuits for quite sometime and happened to read a lot of articles on it.You have to read all of his articles and his wild predictions and compare it to what really happened, to form a opinion about him.
Microsoft funds him, in a IP related project.
details here. http://www.webpronews.com/google-says-anti-google-patent-...
Microsoft funds these projects to create FUD in android or any source projects.Its no secret.Remember "Embrace, extend and extinguish!" by microsoft.
Mueller: Apple's iterative approach to FRAND abuse is not for the faint of heart
Posted Feb 8, 2012 0:24 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330)
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But in this case his bias seems to be pro-Apple rather than pro-Microsoft. He thinks that Apple is entitled to a monopoly because of its exceptional creativity, while competing makers of communications technology should be forced to license all their patents to Apple on RAND terms, not just those required to comply with standards but also those that are required for best performance.
I think he's right that we're headed towards a situation where everyone will be forced to cross-license. If any non-licensed patent can stop a product, Samsung can keep Apple products from being sold just as successfully as Apple can stop Samsung. If anyone is going to sell anything they will be forced to cross-license. Now that Steve Jobs' massive ego has left the scene, this is likely to happen. But Mueller seems to think that this is a bad thing, and it would be better for all the smart phones and tablets in the world to come from Apple (or maybe other players could be coerced into designing in whatever tiny space Apple has left for them).
Yes, only the major players will be in a position to play the cross-licensing game, but once all sides get it that they can't be the only ones to sell a smart phone or a tablet, the sooner everyone can get back to building stuff, and there will be enough choices so that at least one maker will find it advantageous to produce general-purpose, unlocked devices.
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Posted Feb 9, 2012 1:31 UTC (Thu) by rahvin (subscriber, #16953)
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Exceptional creativity? Their value is refining industrial design. I've yet to see something they actually created from scratch rather than refined from the ideas of others. I'd argue that most of the computer sector is that way, small refinements. It would be difficult, if not impossible, for the industry to be anything but. I mean, honestly, square with rounded corners being valuable invention? How can anyone take that seriously. Using two fingers instead of one? Again, what invention?
No, they are good at simplifying products, good at UI and industrial design and one of the best at marketing and almost as good at Microsoft at tieing all their products together. I've yet to see a single thing that I think was actually "invented" by Apple.