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KDE 4.8 released
The KDE project has announced the release of
KDE Plasma
Workspaces, KDE
Applications, and KDE Platform
4.8. "KDE applications released today include Dolphin with its new
display engine and semantic goodies, new Kate features and improvements,
and Gwenview enhancements. Enjoy new Marble features such as interactive
Elevation Profile, satellite tracking and Krunner integration."
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KDE 4.8 released Posted Jan 25, 2012 17:46 UTC (Wed) by jfebrer (subscriber, #82539) [Link]
Congratulations for this great release.
Solid release... Posted Jan 25, 2012 17:50 UTC (Wed) by gilboa (guest, #23856) [Link]
I have been running 4.8 since b2 on a number of Fedora 16 workstations (RPMs from the kde-redhat unstable tree).
Thus far, no glaring bugs. (though I must admit that only I use KDE as shell + console + file management)
- Gilboa
Solid release... Posted Jan 25, 2012 23:59 UTC (Wed) by callegar (guest, #16148) [Link]
Every now and then, the plasma desktop is still hanging. :-(
I do not know if it is still due to the network manager plasmoid as it was in 4.7 (in that release it was advisable to disable this plasmoid and use the standard nm-applet to get rid of long hangs). I know that there is a fix in git, making the plasmoid communication async, but I do not know if it made into 4.8.
Solid release... Posted Jan 26, 2012 1:22 UTC (Thu) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978) [Link]
Might be this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287002
With 4.8 RC2, this stopped happening for me when I disabled checking for updates in Apper. Obviously this is not ideal and a proper fix appears to be on the way.
Solid release... Posted Jan 26, 2012 9:08 UTC (Thu) by renox (subscriber, #23785) [Link]
Bleh, looking at the bug, it seems that
1) the desktop is fragile as any widget with a flaw can freeze the whole desktop. 2) it's difficult to debug as shown by the difficulties of the users to give traces.
That's not good.. I wonder if it is possible to build a desktop which would be more robust and easier to debug, it's seems to be difficult to do..
Solid release... Posted Jan 26, 2012 9:59 UTC (Thu) by moltonel (guest, #45207) [Link]
It's easy enough to build a more bug-resilient and debuggable desktop by having widgets in separate processes... But (most ?) desktops have moved away from that to use less memory, less runtime overhead, and be easyer to develop.
Solid release... Posted Jan 26, 2012 12:18 UTC (Thu) by renox (subscriber, #23785) [Link]
If memory serves, you can configure Chrome from having everything in the same process to each tab in a different process (the default is somewhere in between), I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to do the same for a desktop?
Maybe this could help debugging?
Solid release... Posted Jan 26, 2012 18:33 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]
The default is 'each tab rendered by a different process, WebGL and plugins in their own processes, each domain gets its own process too'. You can optionally combine some or all of the processes into one (turning them into threads instead), but I don't think you can make it more processy than it already is.
Solid release... Posted Jan 28, 2012 20:25 UTC (Sat) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]
> I wonder if it is possible to build a desktop which would be
> more robust and easier to debug, it's seems to be difficult to do..
It has already been built. It's called Xfce, and it has supported running panel plugins in separate processes since 2005.
As a bonus, you get a much faster desktop too.
KDE 4.8 released Posted Jan 25, 2012 20:17 UTC (Wed) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link]
This version of Marble should have OpenStreetMap vector support if I'm not mistaken. I sure hope it won't take half a year for the packages to enter Debian (by no means do I want to sound disrespectful to the work of Debian volunteers).
KDE 4.8 released Posted Jan 25, 2012 23:47 UTC (Wed) by pabs (subscriber, #43278) [Link]
Feel free to join the Debian KDE/Qt team to make it happen faster.
KDE 4.8 released Posted Jan 26, 2012 10:17 UTC (Thu) by moltonel (guest, #45207) [Link]
Or to change distro :p On Gentoo I got KDESC4.8's marble a couple of hours after seeing the announcement (http://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2012/01/gentoo-zero-day-pac...), before I had finished downloading the whole of KDE packages (to counterpoint the usual "Gentoo is slow installing packages" half-truth). </shameless_plug>
KDE 4.8 released Posted Jan 28, 2012 11:50 UTC (Sat) by alecs1 (guest, #46699) [Link]
I do think of switching from Debian, but rather to Ubuntu or OpenSuse. Debian has a very good offer:
-has tons of packages easily installable; -gets some attention from proprietary vendors (ex. Skype has a Debian package, many of the Humble Bundle games also came with a .deb version, in other occasions I could generally find a .deb file); -is very stable with respect to upgrades. I've been running Testing/Unstable on this laptop for 3 years without a single reinstall or a need for a rescue CD, only with occasional drop to the admin console :)
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