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Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read

Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read

Posted Jan 15, 2012 22:09 UTC (Sun) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
In reply to: Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read by giraffedata
Parent article: The Nook Tablet and the GPL

yes, DRM could be used that way, but that's not the common way that it's used. I don't sign up to read an e-book without purchasing it, I buy an e-book. The entire transaction is setup as a sale.

If it was only libraries that were using DRM, and the transaction was clearly structured as a temporary borrowing (with all the terms and conditions defined), with DRM used to enforce the terms. I would have no problem with DRM.

However, when a publisher charges the same or more for the e-book purchase than for the hardcover purchase, there's no justification in saying I am doing anything other than buying the book.


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Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read

Posted Jan 16, 2012 0:26 UTC (Mon) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

But the underlying concept that one is able to transfer less than the whole set of rights that would go with selling a traditional book is still there.

I don't sign up to read an e-book without purchasing it, I buy an e-book. The entire transaction is setup as a sale

And I assume you mean to say that what it's a sale of is the equivalent of a sale of a traditional book. But I'm not sure what your point is -- I may have gotten lost in hypotheticals -- because you clearly understand that you aren't in fact doing that. You know when you buy a DRMed e-book that there are things you're not getting.

when a publisher charges the same or more for the e-book purchase than for the hardcover purchase, there's no justification in saying I am doing anything other than buying the book.

The main justification is that the seller doesn't intend to sell you "the book." In our free market system, that's a whole lot of justification. We generally accept that market prices are too complex to make them the indicator of what's being sold. In fact, I have little trouble accepting that a restricted ebook is worth the same to someone as a full-rights hardcover.

Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read

Posted Jan 16, 2012 1:30 UTC (Mon) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]

you are buying in to the theory that I'm not buying a book, only buying limited rights to read the book. I see it differently.

Kindle, book revocation, and the freedom to read

Posted Jan 16, 2012 3:46 UTC (Mon) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link]

I don't think it's a matter of theory, just definition. I think we have a semantic breakdown and we're talking past each other. I don't think we mean the same thing by "buy."

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