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http://m.lwn.net/ - * not support :(
Our 2012 predictions: http://m.lwn.net support for mobile enviroment
Posted Jan 5, 2012 5:35 UTC (Thu) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313)
If LWN added some detection to detect mobile browsers, and then converted the left bar to something else, it would be far better than almost any other site when accessed on a mobile device, no need for a completely separate USL (and the implied separate site served by it)
Posted Jan 5, 2012 8:54 UTC (Thu) by elanthis (guest, #6227)
(Yes, I'm being sarcastic.)
Also... m.lwn.net doesn't exist so far as I can tell. I'm getting DNS failures on both my desktop (Comcast) and phone (Sprint). LWN has always been a pain in the ass to read and use on a phone in my experience, especially when it comes to commenting (iOS devices tend to get especially very confused and lose the scrollbars in the comment fields). If there's a better way to use it, it's clearly not made obvious (or better yet, automatic).
On the upside, at least it's not as bad as the horrendous (if occasionally informative) Phoronix is. That site is a nightmare to use on a desktop with its "oops I moused over a hover-link on the way to trying to click a regular link, and now I have a page-size Flash ad" setup, and it's basically unusable on a phone.
Posted Jan 13, 2012 20:17 UTC (Fri) by Baylink (subscriber, #755)
Posted Jan 18, 2012 1:42 UTC (Wed) by Duncan (guest, #6647)
But I suspect the biggest phoronix audience is gamers and others that have no ethical or legal problems with proprietaryware, and the flash ads you mention probably work for many of them. Meanwhile, it's quite unlikely I'd be in the market for anything advertised anyway (especially on a site using abusive tactics such as page-blocker ads with no way to kill them if scripting is off), so even if it's per-view paid, it's ultimately better that the advertisers don't get that view from me since that only brings down the response rate and therefore ultimately the per-view fees they're willing to pay.
And life is /so/ much better without the incessant ads... the reason I gave up on TV and radio years ago, for computers and the net, where I could better control such things. (One thing I've noticed, tho, I can listen to internet radio in German or French or Italian or Japanese or Korean or... or even local AZ over-the-air Spanish stations, and have a higher ad tolerance, since I don't understand them and thus they aren't such an insult to my intelligence after I hear them the 10th or 100th time. It takes to the 100th or 1000th time if I can't understand what they're saying anyway, before the invariant recorded repetition itself gets to me.)
Posted Jan 5, 2012 16:42 UTC (Thu) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784)
Posted Jan 6, 2012 10:46 UTC (Fri) by Los__D (guest, #15263)
Posted Jan 13, 2012 20:21 UTC (Fri) by Baylink (subscriber, #755)
The proper approach to this is:
1) detect the user's browser. If known non-mobile, stop.
2) If known mobile, display the page using a mobile style sheet, if possible.
3) On your mobile stylesheet, provide a link to allow the user to switch back to the non-mobile style, and a second link to set a cookie to make the non-mobile behaviour the default for that site.
You shouldn't do it with redirects, cause perhaps the user wants to share that story with friends, and those *friends* won't be on a mobile device -- some mobile sites work poorly or not at all on desktop browsers.
(While I'm at it: hint: putting the title in the URL is also wildly antisocial design. If you must do so, do it as a (deletable) suffix to the articleID.)
Posted Jan 12, 2012 16:00 UTC (Thu) by bjartur (guest, #67801)
I want to choose layouts and font sizes myself. Fixed-width text boxes and forced sidebars are ridiculous. Opera can be told to ignore CSS position suggestions and keep web pages narrower than the window, but that does little good against table layouts (which can't be disambiguated from tabular data).
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