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purpose of **ws

Posted Jan 1, 2012 11:43 UTC (Sun) by gvy (guest, #11981)
In reply to: purpose of laws by drag
Parent article: Doctorow: The coming war on general-purpose computation

> and learn how utterly immoral, inhuman, and unfair
> the justice system has actually become
Well, those fed up with fed jewrisdiction are welcome to Russia. Contrary to what western media might implant into masses, there aren't bears plundering children of vodka all over the place, and I know at least one such guy in person (we met in Jerusalem almost four years ago, he had had moved to Russia and had a family here already) and have read an interview with at least one more -- who also told that there's much more actual freedom in Russia than in America these days, and that his mother wondered why his eyes became so sad and why he looks "almost like a Russian" (well, Dostoevsky might have had an explanation for her -- e.g. "everyone is responsible for everyone").

One other guy (a bright FLOSS developer who was ordered to get out of Ukraine in 48h back then) shared in a newsgroup his observations that then-current USA already reminded late USSR in terms of propaganda and unauthorized authorities.

There's a proverb that Russian law strictness is compensated by it being not that mandatory -- while we do see too much high-profile impunity indeed, the traditional mechanism for dealing with that would be not even formal law but conscience: who would communicate to a scoundrel, and who would stand being rather alone big time?

We also don't have a "tradition" of lifelong loans and nation-wide IDs, and that freedom *is* significant.

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Stop here please

Posted Jan 1, 2012 15:52 UTC (Sun) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

Maybe it's my fault for posting a somewhat political item in the first place, but at this point this conversation is clearly going in unwelcome directions. There are many other sites much better suited to this kind of post; perhaps this conversation could be continued there?

Thanks.

purpose of **ws

Posted Jan 1, 2012 22:47 UTC (Sun) by viro (subscriber, #7872) [Link]

1) don't post while hung over

2) internal passports *are* nation-wide IDs. I don't know how they do it in .ua, but in .ru those are as mandatory as they used to be in .su.

3) inviting folks to the place where you live is fine (in "spread the misery" sense, if nothing else), but that's not exactly what you are doing, is it?

4) Миша, шел бы ты на ... со своим патриотизмом. Противно...

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