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attacksattacksPosted Dec 19, 2011 18:18 UTC (Mon) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185)In reply to: attacks by Cyberax Parent article: Razor-qt 0.4 released
Whether an application fits on screen of course depends on a lot of variables, like whether there's a big panel taking space, or the active theme and even the translation. I'm afraid I cannot guarantee that Krita will always fit in the minimum resolution given these variables. I know it fits for me, in English, using Oxygen and OpenSUSE...
About numerical input of HS(V,B,etc) -- fair enough. Nobody asked for that before, and apparently artists don't need that kind of precision, but it would make a good improvement on the specific color selector. I have created https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=289367.
Of course, you mention how frustrating it can be to file bug reports and see them closed as "won't fix", even if there's a good reason for closing the report, as in the example you have given. I can only say that there are wildly different standards for handling bug reports between projects and even within KDE. Nobody has ever closed a Krita bug report because the discussion has become acrimonious, for example, and most bug reports receive at least a reaction within a week (most often on Saturday, because that's when I sit down and triage.) In other words, it's up to the maintainer, and since I try to be a conscientious maintainer, I would very much appreciate not to be tarred with the same brush as other maintainers who might neglect bug reports.
(This is a fun graph, made by one of our developers: http://i.imgur.com/4qLWK.png. It shows the bugs on the y-axis, and then on the x-axis a pixel for every day that the bug wasn't fixed. It would be more interesting to see when we first came back with a reaction to a bug report, but well, it's just statistics anyway. Draw your own conclusions...)
Finally, I do agree that updates don't land on people's desktops quickly enough. With Calligra we were aiming for a four month release cycle, but there's always more to do, and so the schedule slips and slips. Right now, most professional and semi-professional users actually compile Krita from git master... (Which kind of shows how eager those users are to get the latest features -- and of course, also the bug-fixes we do for them.) This situation is not ideal, but I don't see how it's "brain-dead" either.
Btw, the issue with the ellipse tool leaving traces of garbage on the canvas is fixed.
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attacks Posted Dec 19, 2011 23:19 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
>Whether an application fits on screen of course depends on a lot of variables, like whether there's a big panel taking space, or the active theme and even the translation. I'm afraid I cannot guarantee that Krita will always fit in the minimum resolution given these variables. I know it fits for me, in English, using Oxygen and OpenSUSE...
I run XFCE with a single smallish top panel and without window decorations for maximized windows - it's about as small as it gets. I'll send a screenshot later.
And I must apologize, Krita is definitely getting better. I just got unlucky to use it when it has not yet been stable enough. Thanks for all the good work!
attacks Posted Dec 20, 2011 8:45 UTC (Tue) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]
Thanks --- and if you have feedback on 2.4, don't hesitate to contact me!
attacks Posted Dec 20, 2011 14:09 UTC (Tue) by rsidd (subscriber, #2582) [Link]
Thanks both of you (boudewijn and Cyberax) for setting an example!
As an aside -- Cyberax seems to be of Russian origin and boudewijn, I assume, is of Dutch or Flemish origin. The Dutch are among the most polite people I've met. The Russians I know are polite to me, but I've seen Russians talking to one another (in English, because others were present), and the aggression is staggering -- it seems like any moment they will come to blows. Yet there's nothing personal in it -- it's just a vigorous argument, Russian-style. I suspect a lot of personality conflicts, especially online, are merely cultural issues and could be resolved if the people involved met in real life (or, as in this case, made an extra effort to listen to each other).
Apologies if the stereotyping was incorrect in this case.
attacks Posted Dec 20, 2011 22:37 UTC (Tue) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]
Boudewijn surely is a hugbear - I can say he and his wife Irina are two of the sweetest people I know.
Otherwise, the dutch aren't always so polite - and being one, I know.
We're notoriously arrogant, especially when on holiday. Not sure why THAT brings out the asshole in us... I tend to not have holidays so for me it's hard to say :D
attacks Posted Dec 21, 2011 11:30 UTC (Wed) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] I tend to instinctively think of Dutch people as chiefly "very tall" and "very direct". The holiday thing doesn't exactly surprise me, since English and German people also have at least a bit of a reputation for being disagreeable holidaymakers.
attacks Posted Jan 2, 2012 20:21 UTC (Mon) by jospoortvliet (subscriber, #33164) [Link]
Direct, arrogant, what's the difference? ;-)
attacks Posted Dec 21, 2011 4:15 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
As usual, that depends on person. In the OfflineWorld(tm), I'm a much milder in person than on the Net.
attacks Posted Dec 21, 2011 4:01 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]
http://www.flickr.com/photos/72525417@N03/6547100125/in/p... - here's a screenshot of default Krita configuration on the first start.
I'm going to try Krita more this week - I've compiled git head, but I haven't yet used it much. But it definitely feels MUCH better now.
attacks Posted Dec 21, 2011 8:19 UTC (Wed) by boudewijn (subscriber, #14185) [Link]
Outch... Of course, that _is_ smaller than the minimum size -- at 916px × 737px, but still. I'm surprised though that by default the toolbox has only one column of icons. It should have two -- and you can drag it to have three or more columns. That should help a lot with vertical space taken up.
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