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I beg to differ...

Posted Dec 18, 2011 14:57 UTC (Sun) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: This is, again, the case of "you don't exist"... by pboddie
Parent article: 2011: The Year of Linux Disappointments (Datamation)

But given that modern operating systems rely on multiple concurrently-running processes, I agree with the complainant that having the benefits already provided generally by the operating system (not something that can be said about those old Palm devices) stripped away in favour of an inferior solution providing fewer benefits specifically within a framework has led to a suboptimal experience for users and developers.

Well, this was "obvious" for phone makers from the onset: BlackBerry, Symbian, Windows Phone - they all supported multitasking for more then a decade.

But then someone decided to "strip these benefits" in the favor of "useless eyecandy". And people beat records repeatedly in a rush to buy these phones with "suboptimal experience for users and developers"...

Don't you think that this is... kind of strage? "Suboptimal experience" leads to record sales, rave reviews in press, etc? IMO it just shows that people have different values and for most "true multitasking" is simply less valuable then "smooth hassle-less experience"...


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I beg to differ...

Posted Dec 19, 2011 22:08 UTC (Mon) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784) [Link]

You always beg to differ. However, even the original iPhone was a success for a few factors other than the eye candy, which it probably doesn't have that much of in comparison to the recent models. Take the serious treatment of Web browsing - a browser with a decent pedigree instead of the awful embedded browsers on most devices of the era - and the willingness to have both WLAN and GSM on the same device, plus the emphasis on Google services that I'm sure many people now wish to sweep under the carpet as if it never played a role in the success of that device.

Yes, sure. But how was Apple able to do that?

Posted Dec 19, 2011 23:09 UTC (Mon) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Take the serious treatment of Web browsing - a browser with a decent pedigree instead of the awful embedded browsers on most devices of the era

...which Apple was able to offer because it knew browser can use all (or almost all) of the available memory since it'll be the only app running.

and the willingness to have both WLAN and GSM on the same device

Which was already old news at the time. iPaq 6315 in US and Nokia 9500 in the rest of the world offered the same capability three years earlier and in 2006 even midrange models like Samsung i730 and Nokia N80 had it. Sure, dual (GSM/WiFi) capability was important for iPhone but it was a means, not the goal.

plus the emphasis on Google services that I'm sure many people now wish to sweep under the carpet as if it never played a role in the success of that device.

Oh, sure, YouTube was pretty big attraction. But this just shows that you can not reach success by just blindly showing features in your phone. You need an attractive experience - and if you can not deliver it and multitasking at the same timeĀ… then multitasking must go. You may reintroduce it later when platform will be more capable. Even so Apple was not quite ready to add full multitasking to iPhone 4: apparently it was still not powerful enough. They introduced checkpoint/restore system which is even more limited then Android's one.

It's all about tradeoffs and if your system is not powerful enough to support both multitasking and smooth, pleasant, experience then most people will want pleasant experience.

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