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Ubuntu disabling the Sun Java JDK browser plugin

Ubuntu disabling the Sun Java JDK browser plugin

Posted Dec 16, 2011 15:52 UTC (Fri) by ewan (subscriber, #5533)
Parent article: Ubuntu disabling the Sun Java JDK browser plugin

In the past Ubuntu folks have insisted that including proprietary software in their distribution made it 'just work' better, that it simplified life for their users, and decried people advocating for fully Free distributions as fundamentalists.

Whoops.


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Ubuntu disabling the Sun Java JDK browser plugin

Posted Dec 16, 2011 16:04 UTC (Fri) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

...as a temporary workaround, while they "...are continually working to ensure that every piece of software you could possibly need is available under a licence that gives you those freedoms." (http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy). Plus decrying then stretches the "Ubuntu folks" already outside of the (official) Ubuntu community which is affected by Code of Conduct that would not accept such decrying.

Note also that OpenJDK already is The supported Java option in Ubuntu, in its main repository, while Sun Java has been hidden in the partner repository which AFAIK isn't even enabled by default.

But yes, fanboys have dissed efforts like gNewSense, and I'd estimate a majority of FLOSS folks in general despite the general interest enjoy the good intentions + 99% approach of Ubuntu. For me as well, I try to use only 100% free software, but I also accept the compromises which help the big user masses when they are so nicely separated. For example I can disable the restricted and multiverse repositories like I always do. But I do also have uttermost respect for gNewSense, Debian etc. license investigation people without which there wouldn't be the level of vigilance for free software in Ubuntu either. (price of the freedom is eternal vigilance...)

Ubuntu disabling the Sun Java JDK browser plugin

Posted Dec 16, 2011 17:08 UTC (Fri) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

First of all... this is in the Canonical branded partner repository... not in the Ubuntu branded repository. My understanding is that the Canonical partner repository has always been a separately operated repository outside of Ubuntu governance and has never been enabled by default on any official Ubuntu install media (not including OEM remixes only obtainable from OEM partners). Please correct me if I've wrong about that.

Second of all... all the major linux vendors ship some sort of proprietary software in their vendor controlled offerings. RHEL and SLED both distribute proprietary apps to paying customers. I'm pretty sure both RHEL and SLED ship acroread for example (and have to deal with the security issues arising from that in support of customers). So this isn't something particularly different that Canonical is doing.

Let's keep the criticism factual.

Frankly I'm amazed the partner repository continues to exist at all. The business model around it, where vendors would pay Canonical to have their stuff show up there, never really gained traction with enterprise oriented software vendors like it was meant to do. Never more than a handful, and even fewer that lasted from one LTS to the next.

And the new software center approach which encompasses proprietary apps seems to duplicate much of the goals that he partner repository concept was meant to achieve.

-jef

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