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making the logs temper evident through git like hash chains

making the logs temper evident through git like hash chains

Posted Nov 20, 2011 3:12 UTC (Sun) by cmccabe (guest, #60281)
In reply to: making the logs temper evident through git like hash chains by nevyn
Parent article: The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement

SHA1 has been weakened, but many other hash functions have not. Given that security is the whole point, I'm sure that Lennart will use a newer hash.


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making the logs temper evident through git like hash chains

Posted Nov 20, 2011 19:19 UTC (Sun) by nevyn (subscriber, #33129) [Link]

I think you missed the point ... git and journald can happily use SHA-1 because it adds no security at all. git gets a bunch of other useful features out of using hashes, AFAICS it's just a waste for journald.

making the logs temper evident through git like hash chains

Posted Nov 21, 2011 23:52 UTC (Mon) by cmccabe (guest, #60281) [Link]

> I think you missed the point ... git and journald can happily use SHA-1
> because it adds no security at all

Er, I think perhaps it is you who is missing the point. TFA says:

> Each entry authenticates all previous ones. If the top-most hash is
> regularly saved to a secure write-only location, the full chain is
> authenticated by it. Manipulations by the attacker can hence easily be
> detected.

The point is to get security, not to "happily use SHA-1."

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