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The Journal - a proposed syslog replacementThe Journal - a proposed syslog replacementPosted Nov 19, 2011 1:36 UTC (Sat) by bferrell (subscriber, #624)In reply to: The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement by bferrell Parent article: The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement
OK,
I'm chastised. I'll go sit in the corner with the other rowdy kids and let the grown-ups talk among themselves uninterrupted... Except I'm probably older than most of you, but that's besides the point.
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The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 20, 2011 17:54 UTC (Sun) by ovitters (subscriber, #27950) [Link]
You made a threat against someones life. I fail to see how you think that is acceptable. I think a police report should be filed. FWIW, in the Netherlands police follows sites such as twitter and they'll take action (meaning: get your details from the host, ISP, then knock on your door). It does not matter if it was meant as a joke or not btw.
For just once of the various actions taken by the police, see e.g. http://www.112twente.com/832/Man-aangehouden-voor-verstur... (person was arrested on same day as threat on life was made).
I don't get why your post is still visisble. I would've reported you to the police and/or banned you. And yeah, free speech, but police is also has certain freedoms, such as putting you in jail.
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 20, 2011 18:51 UTC (Sun) by Tet (subscriber, #5433) [Link] You made a threat against someones lifeNo. He really didn't. Whatever side of the fence you happen to sit on in this particular debate, no one in their right mind can seriously claim that what he wrote constituted a threat against Lennart's life.
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 20, 2011 19:05 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]
Problem is that, it often provokes *other people* into acting in a bad way when you even joke about such matters. It is at best, in very poor taste and at worse, a disaster and yes, it should be considered a threat and taken seriously. There hasn't even been a proper apology yet.
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 20, 2011 23:08 UTC (Sun) by Julie (✭ supporter ✭, #66693) [Link] --it often provokes *other people* into acting in a bad way when you even joke about such matters OK, so bferrell's comment made me angry because it was extremely childish and contemptuous towards Lennart, but yours just makes me mad. Are you seriously suggesting that, if you ask me to kill Lennart and I go and do it I can then absolve myself of all responsibility by pointing a finger at you and saying 'he made me do it'?? Don't be ridiculous. It's this misanthropic thinking - that people are mindless vessels floating around just waiting to be filled with evil ideas from outside so we can go out and commit crimes - that calls down all sorts of censorious restrictions on people's heads in the name of 'protecting us all from ourselves'. Let me make it perfectly clear. If you see a death threat on someone's post and go and kill someone (whether you think they are serious or not) it is your fault. If you see a scantily-clad woman walking past and you go and rape her it is your fault. If you overhear a pensioner talking to a friend about how she has a lot of money in her purse and you go and rob her it is your fault. If you have a colleague at work that makes racist comments and you go out and beat up an ethnic minority person it is your fault. Adults are not children. In a democracy the full force of the responsibility for their own actions falls on their own shoulders. The only defense a grown adult can have to this is if they are mentally ill or insane. (And yes, I know about 'incitement to commit...' laws, we have them in the UK. These also make me angry - they are anti-democratic because the ideas behind them strike right at the heart of the idea of personal accountability and responsibility. Of course the 'inciter's' behaviour is nasty and vicious - but this is an orthogonal issue to the behaviour of someone they 'influence', who is still totally accountable for their own conduct.)
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 21, 2011 7:00 UTC (Mon) by k8to (subscriber, #15413) [Link]
It's not a threat, it's in bad taste.
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 20, 2011 19:22 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]
> but police is also has certain freedoms, such as putting you in jail
I'd consider that a power, not a freedom.
The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement Posted Nov 23, 2011 11:59 UTC (Wed) by nye (guest, #51576) [Link]
>You made a threat against someones life. I fail to see how you think that is acceptable. I think a police report should be filed.
There are actually laws against willfully wasting police time.
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