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The Journal - a proposed syslog replacement
Posted Nov 18, 2011 17:43 UTC (Fri) by quotemstr (subscriber, #45331)
If you want cryptographic signatures in your log file, you can include a signed hash field _in the text format_ without having to discard 30 years of refinement.
Posted Nov 18, 2011 17:48 UTC (Fri) by zoonoo (guest, #80519)
Posted Nov 18, 2011 22:44 UTC (Fri) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497)
Posted Nov 19, 2011 4:24 UTC (Sat) by ewan (subscriber, #5533)
Posted Nov 18, 2011 17:53 UTC (Fri) by cmorgan (guest, #71980)
Binary logs have several advantages. Data is split into fields, making it easier to analyze programmatically. Data that isn't easily represented by text or that would span several lines of text could be included. Searching is much easier.
As long as there are easy to use command line tools that will generate text output (maybe call the tool dmesg or whatever) the benefits of using a binary only format would be mostly transparent to end users.
Posted Nov 18, 2011 18:00 UTC (Fri) by quotemstr (subscriber, #45331)
syslog lines are broken into fields too. How often do you need to break down these logs _further_? The theoretical benefit of programmatic analysis doesn't seem worth the trouble of changing everything and the persistent trouble of a binary log format.
Posted Nov 18, 2011 18:05 UTC (Fri) by cmorgan (guest, #71980)
Some people do have a use for breaking the data down further. Being able to organize log entries by nested modules/submodules.
Try to have an open mind. systemd was a great idea for several reasons. So much so that most distributions have adopted or plan to adopt it. If this idea solves issues it too will be adopted. We can't forget that sometimes things evolve. In this case, would you care as much if a tool would provide you with the same looking output that you see today? What difference would there be in that case? Everyone can win (or at least break even).
Posted Nov 20, 2011 10:26 UTC (Sun) by misc (subscriber, #73730)
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