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Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News)

Posted Nov 11, 2011 10:41 UTC (Fri) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978)
In reply to: Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News) by Cyberax
Parent article: Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News)

Thanks for replying with some concrete issues - could have done without the additional snarky comments however.

several shortcuts are not listed there. For example, clipboard daemon grabs ctrl-shift-ins shortcut (which I already use extensively in JetBrains IDEA) and it can't be configured anywhere.

That's not a global shortcut, it's just defined locally for any KDE application that can paste. However, you can go to "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts" and disable it there, and it will apply to all KDE applications. I've just tried several non-KDE applications with this setting changed, and none that didn't grab Ctrl+Shift+Ins themselves did anything. So I'm not sure what's going on on your system, could be a bug.

Then there's an icon telling me that I have pending updates. Except I don't - I update my system using "apt-get dist-upgrade" and KDE doesn't understand it.

This is a distro-supplied utility, AFAIK it is not part of KDE. Besides, if you don't want the notification, disable it (for Apper you just right click, configure, set "check for updates" to "never").

So you list some legitimate issues here, but no crashes or anything else that would fall into the "flaky" category. The taskbar one appears somewhat obvious though, and I've seen that here once (although now that I try to reproduce it on 4.7.2 I can't seem to do so, perhaps that's why no developer has fixed it yet...).

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Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News)

Posted Nov 11, 2011 16:51 UTC (Fri) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

>That's not a global shortcut, it's just defined locally for any KDE application that can paste.

Nope. It's intercepted by clipboard app to show the clipboard ring. I can trigger it from IDEA which is decidedly NOT a KDE application.

>So you list some legitimate issues here, but no crashes or anything else that would fall into the "flaky" category.

Well, with that attitude my software is perfect. After all, it doesn't crash. Oh, and when it crashes it doesn't take out the whole building. So that's OK.

>The taskbar one appears somewhat obvious though, and I've seen that here once (although now that I try to reproduce it on 4.7.2 I can't seem to do so, perhaps that's why no developer has fixed it yet...).

And that proves my point.

Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News)

Posted Nov 11, 2011 17:45 UTC (Fri) by BlueLightning (subscriber, #38978) [Link]

Nope. It's intercepted by clipboard app to show the clipboard ring. I can trigger it from IDEA which is decidedly NOT a KDE application.

What do you mean clipboard ring? If you mean Klipper, just close it, that will determine if that's the source of the problem. It does not behave that way on my system, FWIW.

Well, with that attitude my software is perfect. After all, it doesn't crash. Oh, and when it crashes it doesn't take out the whole building. So that's OK.

I didn't say it's OK that these issues exist and I definitely didn't say it's perfect. You said "flaky and unusable", I took issue with that description.

And that proves my point.

No, it does not.

Trinity Project keeping 3.5 alive (KDE.News)

Posted Nov 12, 2011 18:53 UTC (Sat) by pboddie (subscriber, #50784) [Link]

What do you mean clipboard ring? If you mean Klipper, just close it, that will determine if that's the source of the problem.

In the interest of balanced criticism here, it should be noted that Klipper was awful in KDE 3 as well. It was one of the first things I removed from the taskbar after having popped up for the tenth time wanting to open on my behalf some URL or other I was merely copying.