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Dividing the Linux desktop
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The fixed grid provided a way to organise them spatially, whereas, as we all know, Gnome 3 only gives you a choice of linear, intra-same-app-type switching model.
Were you forced to lower the amount of same-app windows?
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Posted Nov 10, 2011 15:59 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
I am not sure what you mean by that.
Gnome-shell is setup in such a way that you it allows you to do 'switch-by-application' or 'switch-between-application-windows', depending on context and method used.
alt-tab switches between applications, but using alt-tab and holding alt allows navigation between application windows by the arrow keys.
Previous desktops only allowed switching between windows. Whether or not those windows were associated with one another was not taken into account.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 18:37 UTC (Thu) by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
e.g., I want to switch from my web browser to the particular terminal window running mutt to write a mail. I used to be able to do this with Alt+Tab, now it's Alt-Tab followed by between 0 and nterminals-1 Alt-` keypresses to do so.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 19:11 UTC (Thu) by drag (subscriber, #31333)
Posted Nov 10, 2011 20:09 UTC (Thu) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
Again, many emacs frames, many terminal apps. What is the proposed Gnome 3 workflow?
Posted Nov 10, 2011 20:51 UTC (Thu) by cortana (subscriber, #24596)
Posted Nov 10, 2011 21:03 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
Posted Nov 10, 2011 20:22 UTC (Thu) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
I have a 6x6 grid virtual desktop layout. Most of the desktops are occupied by full screen windows -- either terminals or Emacs frames.
The planar layout allows me to use my spatial intuition, which, in the end, allows me to manage many more windows.
It's simply possible for me to remember the layout of things on a 6x6 grid.
It is beyond possibility for me to remember anything about a fixed 1x36 line, especially when the elements come and go. It is also vastly less practical to move in such a layout.
Feel free to ask any further questions.
Posted Nov 10, 2011 22:28 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
Never you mind the spatial intuition - as is, gnome shell won't even let your _see_ where your stuff is.
It's a bit like this. You have drawers with socks, undies, shirts etc. Normally, each of the drawers has a picture on it of what's in it and generally, drawers are not interchanged, unless you decide to rearrange.
Gnome shell version if this is that you are not allowed to put pictures on your drawers, your drawers get occasionally reshuffled (depending on how you decide to dress in the morning) and obviously, you actually need to look into each one to see what's in it every single time you need something.
The rationale is that this is preventing you from becoming a compulsive clothes changer. :-)
Posted Nov 11, 2011 14:30 UTC (Fri) by mstefani (subscriber, #31644)
I visually know where my window is. I don't have to search for it (ALT-TAB is searching) I just go there: keypress to the desired workspace and mouse move to the desired window (mostly tiled terminals). Add to that focus follows mouse and I've switched windows fast and without any cognitive effort.
Posted Nov 11, 2011 17:15 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304)
Now one of the principal attributes of physical spaces is that they do not rearrange themselves spontaneously as you walk through them. Thus, we should probably try to avoid doing that here, too. I can't think of *anything* in the real world that a spontaneously reordering list could be modelled as. (Windows's alt-tab lists are just as bad. Watching users peck laboriously through them is painful.)
Posted Nov 17, 2011 12:56 UTC (Thu) by sorpigal (subscriber, #36106)
It's easy to remember where my web browser is (always the same desktop) and where my irc client is (always the same, different desktop) and where I left the GIMP the last time I used it... and since my pager is in the corner of the screen it's always a fast mouse+click to get to any app. I have a hard time imagining an improvement.
Posted Nov 18, 2011 8:02 UTC (Fri) by deepfire (subscriber, #26138)
Posted Nov 22, 2011 5:29 UTC (Tue) by Zizzle (guest, #67739)
Static work space allocations (you always know where your email client is) which is only a click away is a massive win.
I also bind workspace navigation to Ctrl+<Arrow> so I can do it with one hand.
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