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AVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own routerAVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own routerPosted Nov 3, 2011 20:49 UTC (Thu) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954)In reply to: ELCE11: Till Jaeger on AVM vs. Cybits by ekj Parent article: ELCE11: Till Jaeger on AVM vs. Cybits
Copyright does not prevent me from buying a single copy of Harry Potter, then creating a derived work by physically inserting (let's say I use glue) a new chapter at the end. I believe it does, in the US, and according to the article, AVM claims it does in Germany too. One of the rights in copyright is to prevent others from "preparing derivative works." While I'm not a copyright lawyer and don't know of any court ruling on a similar thing, I do know of a US case where the right was alleged and the alleged violator didn't protest: People were modifying personally owned VHS copies of the movie Titanic, by physically removing tape, to remove the sex scenes. They wanted to see the movie, but PG-13 was too racy for them. (A detail that probably doesn't matter: they were paying a certain editor, who advertised the service, to do it. It was the editor the copyright owner accused of copyright violation).
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AVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own router Posted Nov 4, 2011 11:15 UTC (Fri) by dlang (✭ supporter ✭, #313) [Link]
while there are some stupid court decisions out there (where they say that copyright lets the author control everything done with their code because it is copied into ram to run), copyright only affects making copies, so pasting a new chapter into a book isn't copying anything.
if you try and pass the result off as the work of the original author, that author can sue you for misrepresentation, trademark dilution, etc, but not copyright.
AVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own router Posted Nov 4, 2011 21:30 UTC (Fri) by giraffedata (subscriber, #1954) [Link] copyright only affects making copies, That doesn't appear to be the case. The US copyright statute lists a bunch of things the copyright owner has the exclusive right to do. Making a copy is one. Performing in public is another. "Preparing" a derivative work is another. Claims reported in the article suggest the same is true of German copyright.
AVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own router Posted Nov 7, 2011 21:31 UTC (Mon) by samroberts (subscriber, #46749) [Link]
I don't know about the example of pasting a new chapter into a physical copy of a book, but Francis Hwang got in trouble for doing the digital equivalent in the US:
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/news/2004/12/65959
AVM vs. Cybits - right to modify one's own router Posted Nov 14, 2011 0:41 UTC (Mon) by DHR (guest, #81356) [Link]
@samroberts "Francis Hwang got in trouble for doing the digital equivalent in the US"
That doesn't seem to be legal trouble. It seems Ebay has an odd takedown policy.
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