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Kernel.org's road to recoveryKernel.org's road to recoveryPosted Oct 8, 2011 19:55 UTC (Sat) by malor (subscriber, #2973)In reply to: Kernel.org's road to recovery by nix Parent article: Kernel.org's road to recovery Well, for what it's worth, the 'lying' thing comes from me, not from PaXTeam, and I stand behind that assertion 100%. Whether or not anyone happens to like that description, it is accurate. Information is being deliberately suppressed, to the benefit of the people doing the suppressing, and the detriment of the people the information is being hidden from. I don't see that any other word really suffices, in that context. The rest of all the foofoorah, I know nothing about. My only contact with kernel devs is via these comments on LWN. I'm not affiliated with any particular camp. I just want to be told the whole truth, so I can make my own decisions, instead of having my agency taken from me. I'm not asking for any extra work, just that known security issues be revealed. Indirectly, of course, my hope is that the quality of the kernel will improve, because if just how many security holes are coming out of that team becomes easily visible to the world, I think the pressure will ramp up to stop adding new features, and fix the old ones instead. And I think that's exactly what the kernel devs don't want to do.
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Kernel.org's road to recovery Posted Oct 8, 2011 21:48 UTC (Sat) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] There are a number of words or phrases, at varying places along the sliding scale of euphemism vs. dysphemism, for describing deliberate concealment of true information, but the unqualified term "lying" is not one I regard as well-used for such, being better reserved for the knowing and deliberate emanation of false information. "Lying by omission" is adequate, if you are absolutely insistent that the word "lying" must be used.
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