MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe [LWN.net]

MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe

Posted Oct 6, 2011 0:13 UTC (Thu) by ras (subscriber, #33059)
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Who will be the Debbie and Ian for the smartphone platform? Lets hope they make their presence known soon.

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MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe

Posted Oct 6, 2011 7:55 UTC (Thu) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

Debian is already there, and I've been running it on my smartphone as primary OS for years ;) It's just about where to pour one's interest in so far as to productize things for not only individuals themselves but more to ordinary end-users, in addition to hw availability issues. I've only scratched the surface of that with my instructions and (poor and minimal) preinstalled image. One can argue Debian hasn't done that for ordinary desktop users either, but it was Ubuntu that did it.

So, Debian for smartphones already exists and welcomes people, but it's the more narrowly specified and more productized Ubuntu for smartphones that's missing. Mer + MeeGo CE + Plasma Active? Tizen?

MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe

Posted Oct 6, 2011 12:16 UTC (Thu) by mordae (subscriber, #54701) [Link]

Can you share details, please?

MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe

Posted Oct 6, 2011 18:41 UTC (Thu) by tajyrink (subscriber, #2750) [Link]

Well I think I've repeated myself too much recently, since there are so many news that touch the topic. But see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki for a few screenshots of my Debian setup. There are several other people with different setups. The key thing is that it's possible.

With FSO2 now in Debian, there are modem drivers and eg. audio setup support for several other smartphones like Palm Pre, Nokia N900, some HTC:s etc. oFono is in Debian as well, but I haven't checked that out and it's only the modem part.

There is near zero productization. At least with FreeRunner you have a packaged kernel in pkg-fso team's repository, but for others you need your vmlinuz + modules from somewhere, in addition to Debian ARM rootfs. And you need to setup the UI like SHR software manually. But it's just about missing for example install.sh similar to what FreeRunner has, or proper Debian kernel and debian-installer support, or offering pre-configured rootfs:s. And doing more of the needed packaging work.

MeeGo becomes Tizen - maybe

Posted Oct 7, 2011 15:03 UTC (Fri) by mordae (subscriber, #54701) [Link]

Thanks a lot, I'll look into that.