Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek) [LWN.net]

eWeek takes Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0 Beta (Taroon) for a test drive. "Taroon ships with the XFree86 4.3 graphics subsystem, as well as with GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment) 2.2 and KDE (K Desktop Environment) 3.1.2. It also the OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 office productivity suite, Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 mail client and Mozilla 1.4 Web browser."

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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek)

Posted Aug 22, 2003 20:06 UTC (Fri) by smoogen (subscriber, #97) [Link]

A couple of items on the article:

1) Red Hat AS was based off of RHL 7.1 with quarterly updates that brought it close to 7.2
2) Red Hat ES/WS were based off of RHL 7.2 with some 7.3 items.
3) Taroon does not ship with a JVM for eclipse to work, but that is due to the usual contractual agreements with Sun on shipping java for free. [EG you cant unless you pay them.]

I have been pretty impressed with Taroon so far...

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek)

Posted Aug 24, 2003 4:05 UTC (Sun) by foo@share-foo.com (guest, #7940) [Link]

I have to say though, when you pay a mint for the OS, the vender can afford to pay for and bundle a third party JVM.

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek)

Posted Aug 24, 2003 20:18 UTC (Sun) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

It is my understanding that RHAS 2.1 is *entirely* open source software, except for the Java VM. (Even the installer is included in the SRPMs.) If they have not added any proprietary software, and if they have removed the proprietary JVM, Taroon is *entirely* open source. This gives me the warm fuzzies, impresses the hell out of me, and reminds me just what kind of company RedHat is. And java is easy enough to install if you need it. You're going to spend a long time configuring a server if you need RHEL anyway.

If you want the vendor to license proprietary software for you, you might prefer Suse or SCO.

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek)

Posted Aug 30, 2003 13:11 UTC (Sat) by mdekkers (guest, #85) [Link]

Hmm, what counts more to you, following the spirit of open source, or following the letter of open source. did you, per chance, ever read the licenses RedHat slaps onto their enterprise software?

Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3.0: Beta Test Drive (eWeek)

Posted Aug 24, 2003 11:05 UTC (Sun) by ahornby (subscriber, #3366) [Link]

I think the version of eclipse that will ship with final 3.0 is gcj based - so there is no need to include a JVM to run eclipse.

That said, you will need a JVM to do any useful java development, as one would be doing very well to run JBoss or similar on the gcj VM :^) (although tomcat does work, so perhaps its not too far away!).

Cheers,
Alex.