Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica) [LWN.net]

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 10, 2011 8:52 UTC (Sun) by rmano (subscriber, #49886) [Link]

Well, for me it has 2 problems:

1) TB is still unable (I think, I could not find how to di it) to read mail from a private directory with a bunch of mboxes that are filled up by procmail scripts. Evolution do it (with bugs, but it manages.)

2) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377621 should be _really_ fixed.

If these two problems were fixed, TB is so nice that I would switch over on the spot. 1) can be fixed by having a local IMAP server, but well... 2) is really ugly.

The other important thing is croos-platform calendar integration. But if (at it seems) I can synchronize it with memootoo, I will be happy.

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 11, 2011 14:10 UTC (Mon) by stevem (subscriber, #1512) [Link]

There have been wishlist bugs open for *ages* asking for local maildir support in thunderbird. Come on folks, it can't be that hard to add...!

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 9:49 UTC (Fri) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link]

Are you in the set of people who need to read mails longer than 2 GB, and who also don't use a platform that doesn't build all its own software and provide it to the user via a package manager? :)

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 10:10 UTC (Fri) by sbakker (subscriber, #58443) [Link]

Er, the double negation in the second part of your question confuses me.

Lemme just parse this: I *do* use a platform that *does* build its software and provides it through a package manager (the one that has the Gnome3 shell and systemd as defaults), so I guess ... the answer ... is ... er, "yes"?

Unfortunately, TB5 is so fresh that it hasn't shown up in my distro's repository yet, and I'd like to give it a spin (it being Friday and all).

64-bit processors have been around for about a decade now, and I really dislike the idea of having to install a huge set of 32-bit libraries just to run certain pieces of software (Skype being one of them, but I gave that up a long time ago).

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 10:03 UTC (Fri) by epa (subscriber, #39769) [Link]

Yes, I remember when 64-bit systems came out on the first of January 1986... it was such a step forward. Of course, it took a day or two for most download websites to be updated for the new architecture.

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 10:16 UTC (Fri) by gevaerts (subscriber, #21521) [Link]

They actually came out in 1976

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 10:27 UTC (Fri) by sbakker (subscriber, #58443) [Link]

32-bit chips were introduced in 1985, therefore having no 64-bit applications is like being back in 1985... Although, to be fair, it took almost 10 years for 32-bit OSes to be widespread.

So, point taken.

Of course, it took a day or two for most download websites to be updated for the new architecture.

It's not like 64-bit processors came out yesterday. They've been around since 2003. 64-bit operating systems have been around for some time now as well. So by analogy with the 32-bit adoption, I'd have to wait another two years?

... (wanders off to spend Friday afternoon in the pub.)

Lack of 64 bit binaries

Posted Jul 1, 2011 11:49 UTC (Fri) by dps (subscriber, #5725) [Link]

HP can't cope with the difficulty of building 64 bit binaries, and they don't supply source. HP wins by putting x86 binaries in an allegedly all architecture package! LSI also find it extremely difficult and they are in good company.

Someone might also give HP the clue that popen("ls") is *not* the right way of listing a directory in C and popen("grep <arguments>") is also the wrong thing. It would also be nice if the exit status meant something.

Other raid vendor's use usually are 32 bit only, closed source and badly designed too but the code quality is not quite as bad as HP's. They usually do manage to make the exit status reflect whether or not something worked.

Lack of 64 bit binaries

Posted Jul 5, 2011 15:04 UTC (Tue) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link]

I used to work with a developer who programmed like that, wrote everything in C and no one could criticize his code because he'd been with the company so long and they would work, except when they didn't.

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 5, 2011 1:32 UTC (Tue) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link]

*cough* Well, x86-32 and x86-64. m68k and alpha are rather older :)

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 11:33 UTC (Fri) by mjblenner (subscriber, #53463) [Link]

They don't advertise them for some reason. Try in here:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/r...

Not much in new Thunderbird 5, but roadmap looks promising (ars technica)

Posted Jul 1, 2011 11:53 UTC (Fri) by sbakker (subscriber, #58443) [Link]

Yep, that works. Thanks!