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SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 5:47 UTC (Tue) by pjs (guest, #10927)
Parent article: SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Maybe I misunderstood the lawsuit to be about a breach of IBM's contract. Apparantly it's now "essentially about the GNU General Public License and all it stands for" and "challenging the notion that Linux is a free operating system".

The farther this thing goes, the more McBride's statements look like they're being read right off cue cards from Microsoft.


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SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 5:57 UTC (Tue) by BrucePerens (subscriber, #2510) [Link]

And now it's millions of lines of code that they claim were infringed. I hope everybody realizes how kooky that is.

Bruce

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 6:23 UTC (Tue) by xorbe (guest, #3165) [Link]

stock 2.4.21

$ find -type f -name "*.c" | xargs cat | egrep -v '^[ \t\n]*$' | wc -l
3032754
[jrmancin@vws788 linux-2.4.21]$ find -type f -name "*.h" | xargs cat | egrep -v '^[ \t\n]*$' | wc -l
852364


So they own 25.7%+ they say? ;-)

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 9:41 UTC (Tue) by chel (guest, #11544) [Link]

You should substract the lines orginating from 2.2 (there was no
SCO IP in 2.2) that will raise SCO's IP claims in 2.4 kernels over 100%
as "millions" should be much more than 2M

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 17:09 UTC (Tue) by sommere (guest, #14168) [Link]

That's not quite right either. It is possible that some lines have been deleted between 2.2 and 2.4.

A (somewhat) better estimate (although it does include documentation etc..) can be found by:
diff -urN linux-2.2/ linux-2.4.20/ | grep "^+" | grep -v "^+++"|wc -l

which results in:
3040920

still, > 1/3 of the code is just silly.

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 6:48 UTC (Tue) by kunitz (guest, #3965) [Link]

Under the theory, that everything which once upon a time might
have been linked with AT&T's code is theirs. Seems to me that the
UNIX license in the hands of SCO seems quite "viral" and ignores a
number of intellectual property rights like patents (RCU), copyright
(GPL) and such.

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 10:41 UTC (Tue) by cpm (subscriber, #3554) [Link]

The lawsuit *started* as about a so-called breach of contract, then it started morphing almost immediatly. The lawsuit is really about Microsoft trying to bury linux. Once this is over, there will be another and another. It will continue until either the GPL is defeated or Microsoft is broke.
Given the way the US legal system *seems* to work, , , ,

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 11:03 UTC (Tue) by Wol (guest, #4433) [Link]

The reason it is now "about the GPL" is that IBM's counter-suit accuses SCO of 4 patent charges plus breach of GPL.

It wasn't SCO brought the GPL into it - it was IBM! And now SCO *have* to fight the GPL - they don't have any choice unless they want to cave in and withdraw their suit, which they can't because that would be the end of SCO :-)

And as I see it, IBM *intended* *exactly* *this*. The countersuit was filed just one or two days after SCO officially announced their licencing program. IBM couldn't file earlier, because it was the licencing program that breached the GPL.

It's been commented elsewhere that the FSF are strangely silent. The obvious conclusion is that they are working with IBM on the GPL thing.

Poor SCO :-)

Cheers,
Wol

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 12:20 UTC (Tue) by jeroen (subscriber, #12372) [Link]

The FSF has four articles about the SCO stuff: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sco/

Your conclusion is right, the website says that Eben Moglen is "coordinating with IBM's lawyers on the matter."

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 13:58 UTC (Tue) by dbhost (guest, #3461) [Link]

"The farther this thing goes, the more McBride's statements look like they're being read right off cue cards from Microsoft."

I am truly shocked that you would come to such a conclusion. Don't you know that SCOs intents and interests here are pure as the driven snow and without outside influences? Why just listen to Darl McBrides statements on the matter and SCO's position, that is until that position moves so danged fast as to make it impossible to figure out where exactly they stand.

From what I can tell SCOs position is this.

Do you use a computer?
If so pay us money or we will sue you for stealing our property.

Hmmm on the other hand, I guess you are right, that does look like the script right out of Redmond!

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 15:34 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

The farther this thing goes, the more McBride's statements look like they're being read right off cue cards from Microsoft.

I don't think so. Microsoft can afford lawyers competent enough to make arguments better than this.

SCO Turns Up the Heat on Linux Users (eWeek)

Posted Aug 19, 2003 16:24 UTC (Tue) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

"I don't think so. Microsoft can afford lawyers competent enough to make arguments better than this."

Hey! but aren't they under a period of "watch what M$ is doing" from their last anti-trust lawsuit ?..., it could spell trouble to them.


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