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Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Posted May 17, 2011 17:07 UTC (Tue) by jake (editor, #205)
In reply to: Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software by jspaleta
Parent article: Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

> Is there any possibility at all to listen to the original audio
> recording so I can hear the quoted phrases in context.

No, I'm afraid not. No audio was recorded, we just chatted and I took notes, while trying to understand Mark's ideas as best I could.

> There's a lot of emotional leakage showing in the chosen quoted
> phrases, and not much reasoned or rational thinking.

If that's true, then I failed to convey the conversation well. Mark has certainly done a lot of thinking about this stuff, and presented it in a rational way. It was, though, an off-the-cuff discussion, not some prepared remarks, which leads to some disjointedness (as does me madly trying to take notes while listening).

jake


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Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Posted May 17, 2011 17:19 UTC (Tue) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639) [Link]

I would call the majority of the chosen quotes.. rational speech. I've seen Canonical employees get pissed off for far less bombastic name calling in other contexts.

I would not consider the quoted material as a best-foot-forward approach towards a constructive discussion. But speech like that, which casts those with a different pov as "fundamentalists" right out of the gate is a good open salvo in a public relations war. I'm not sure that is actually what Shuttleworth wants... a war of words. That would seem to be counter to his goals. And it's not what I took away from his very sincerely sounding contrite apology in the UDS keynote video for not leading the discussion on these issues prior to this point.

If you have a followup private discussion with him, please encourage him to make an on the record statement in full in his own words instead of continuing to have private discussions with intermediaries which run the risk of misrepresenting what he actually wants to achieve.

If I'm fundamentalist about anything, its my desire to have a public on the record discussion about these issues, where everyone can be held personally accountable for what they choose to say in the discussion.

-jef

Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Posted May 17, 2011 19:51 UTC (Tue) by ejr (subscriber, #51652) [Link]

I concur about the quotes needing context. I bristled very quickly into reading the article, even trying to keep an open mind.

Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Posted May 18, 2011 8:29 UTC (Wed) by k3ninho (subscriber, #50375) [Link]

I'd be very interested in hearing the audio, had you recorded it. I assume that recording interviews is the standard journalist's tool for reviewing an interview to get the most out of the time. I think I'd pay to hear a recording, were you to do them in future. Could you create that kind of subscriber perk?

K3n.

Mark Shuttleworth on companies and free software

Posted May 19, 2011 8:43 UTC (Thu) by jschrod (subscriber, #1646) [Link]

Did you run your article by Mark; to check if he thinks this is a faithful recording of your conversation?

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