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yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 10, 2011 0:28 UTC (Tue) by proyvind (guest, #74683)
In reply to: yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga by misc
Parent article: Who maintains RPM? (2011 edition)

I've speaken to several of my *current* french co-workers, I must admit that there's still some bad feelings about it amongst two of the three (not just one) edge-it people that didn't leave, but beyond that, there's more positive feelings about it. And the Conectiva department is very happy about the change, given the poor behaviour, attitude and respect shown both towards them and other members in the community.

For the real reasons, every Edge-IT employee I spoke with before leaving said that while they did like the new plans of the new investors, they did leave exactly because the few people who weren't offered a new contract, which made them feel like Mandriva wouldn't be the same place to work anymore, thus declining the contract.
People should rather start asking *who* weren't offered a new contract, and what could be the cause of this?
Firing people is a costly process and gives legal hazzles, terminating them during liquidation of a company is a convenient way to do so without technically doing it, just saying.. Not stating..
Having more insight on these details than you probably have, and also about current situation with daily contact with colleagues and management, I think I know more than you'd happen to know and would have the possibility to learn currently, especially considering many of your rants, speculations, lies about mine and others' employment and what not has sort of made you a persona-non-grata amongst several people within company, so I truly doubt you're up to date on many things..

For those not being offered a new contract, for those I know, I can only say way overdue, might sound a bit harsh, but since 2007 I've been seriously considered to abandon the project, driven away just as intended by some of these people..


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yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 10, 2011 9:20 UTC (Tue) by boklm (subscriber, #34568) [Link]

> For the real reasons, every Edge-IT employee I spoke with before leaving said that while they did like the new plans of the new investors, they did leave exactly because the few people who weren't offered a new contract, which made them feel like Mandriva wouldn't be the same place to work anymore, thus declining the contract.

I've not heard anyone saying they liked the new plans of the new investors. Actually I don't know how it's possible to like a new plan that you know nothing about.
People were explained by Jean Noel de Galzain that they need not know about what their plans are, it's not their job, "just shut up and go back to your coding".

By the way, nobody was offered a new contract before the declaration of cessation of payments. Some people were offered one after, but leaving edge-it to join mandriva at this time could only be done with some skulduggery.

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 11, 2011 22:41 UTC (Wed) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]

Well, let's wait and see how they're going to execute both short- and mid-term (if any). I've started a minimal Mageia mirror in the mean time.

Good luck, folks. We all need a bit of it from time to time.

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 16, 2011 16:45 UTC (Mon) by DKomissarov (guest, #74949) [Link]

I personally proposed to Ann Nicolas to stay in Mandriva and create new vision of Mandriva future. But after short period of time, she said "too late and I leave Edge-IT as the all its staff do".

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted Jun 18, 2011 13:50 UTC (Sat) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]

Bravo, Ann!

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 12, 2011 8:25 UTC (Thu) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link]

The whole persona no grata is likely a exageration, or the current boss ( Arnaud La Prévote ) just lied to me on the Mandriva booth 5 minutes ago ( on Solution Linux ) when I directly asked the question.

yet another peripeteia in the mandriva saga

Posted May 14, 2011 23:08 UTC (Sat) by proyvind (guest, #74683) [Link]

"has *sort of* made you a persona-non-grata *amongst several people* within company"

read and be sure to understand what's being written and meant, in stead of just picking out parts of context and apply speculative rhetorics in public (where those actually implied usually aren't), and you wouldn't achieve any claims of such..

It's impossible to understand whether there lies any motivations or intended intentions or anything behind what you write (and to be fair, I know you better to make any assumptions of maliciousness or particular agenda), but the conclusions others draw from it and the consequences there of are quite frustrating and often devastating..

I personally find it extremely tiring and discouraging when I repeteadly find others discussing claims regarding me, my character and technical matters in public and behind my back, rather than with me directly. For me personally the result is my credibility, competence and work being undermined, which again has consequences affecting those whom I'm affiliated with..

While I know better than that you'd have any personal vendetta against me, I know for a fact there's several others who do, and to those, you only provide fuel..

I'm extremely tired and fed up, and I'll most likely do my best staying out of public for a period, hoping for others to try their best respect my privacy. Thx.

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