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Little things that matter in language design
If a king is hoarding all the grain, and I rob his silos to feed the people, it is *moral* but unethical. See, not so simple is it?
The Golden Rule is an ethic. It is *the* ethic. And in general, it precludes bank robberies.
Ethics and morals.
Posted May 5, 2011 19:58 UTC (Thu) by RogerOdle (subscriber, #60791)
* Is a whistle blower ethical or unethical? He violates his non-disclosure agreement (unethical) but he points out wrong doing (ethical). Maybe.
* Is your hypothetical king wrong for hording? Why haven't your hypothetical people provided for their own needs? Why have they become a burden to the king? These kinds of examples are oversimplified and intended to generate an emotional response, not a reasoned one. Is that ethical?
Posted May 5, 2011 20:22 UTC (Thu) by chad.netzer (guest, #4257)
I think what I've done is to point out how pointless *your* absolutist definitions of ethics (and morals) are.
Posted May 6, 2011 0:13 UTC (Fri) by h2 (guest, #27965)
As someone who has studied a large amount of serious philosophy, I view the question of morality/ethics as almost the exact opposite of what you do.
To me, morality is a relative, almost meaningless term, defined by the time and place it occurs in. What is immoral today was not so yesterday, and might not be tomorrow. Every religious system that contains dogmas will almost inevitably then contain its own relative morality. For example, we have a Christian morality, which does not agree with an Islamic morality, which does not agree with a Jewish morality, though they may intersect, but not by necessity.
Ethics, on the other hand, is a far more demanding concept, and goes far deeper than does mere relative morality. Spinoza, for example, in his book titled 'The Ethics', which oddly never really mentions the word at all, for very good reason once you understand the question, is a good place to start. Ethics, that is, flows out of substance, the fundamental fabric of existence, what I assume you are referring to when you use the term 'God'.
Because ethics is a deeper concept, it's harder to explain, though one should know it when it is violated. This is also known as 'The Way', or 'Following the Way'.
What's up with that website anyway, it wants me to confirm an incompetently configured https: security exception just to read Linus's ramblings on things he doesn't understand? I'll pass, thanks.
This would be comical if it weren't so bizarre, and sad.
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