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Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation (ITWorld)
IT World covers
a proposal by Oracle to hand control of the Hudson project to the
Eclipse Foundation. "Under the terms of the proposal, all aspects of
Hudson, including source code, domain name, and copyright, would fall under
the auspices of the Eclipse Foundation (EF), should the proposal be
approved by the Hudson community. This would be a very significant step for
Hudson, since the EF is rather highly regarded as a neutral member of the
open source community and Eclipse governance should go a long way towards
easing any misgivings anyone might have about Oracle maintaining control
over Hudson."
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Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 4, 2011 18:24 UTC (Wed) by dion (subscriber, #2764) [Link]
In other words: Now that we've broken it, you can get to play with it.
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 4, 2011 19:03 UTC (Wed) by boog (subscriber, #30882) [Link]
I don't think it is spiteful action, it just seems that Oracle have been very slow to realise how open source projects need to be handled. For a number of theirs it is simply too late and they are now trying to limit the damage and cut their losses.
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 4, 2011 20:27 UTC (Wed) by jengelh (subscriber, #33263) [Link]
Should they not already have learned that with Opensolaris and/or Openoffice?
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 4, 2011 21:38 UTC (Wed) by boog (subscriber, #30882) [Link]
Well, yes, I did say "very slow"... And it's true that they haven't quite had the good grace to rejoin the main fork in any of the cases.
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 5, 2011 1:58 UTC (Thu) by donbarry (guest, #10485) [Link]
It's PR spin entirely. They did not discuss this with the Jenkins community (and let's face it, their describing this as an idea of a "Hudson community" is a laughable oxymoron and slightly insulting). As they do not hold a copyright assignment on a good body of the code, relicensing to the Eclipse Public License will be "troublesome." Given the history and the lack of good faith to date -- and the lack of good faith in making an approach before undertaking this PR move, the vast majority of the developers who left and said "good riddance" are likely to continue to say "good riddance." The pace of development of the Hudson fork is insignificant now, and very little of that is coming from Oracle, most of it has been purchased from Sonatype at undisclosed terms. It would seem that lacking a community, that side is now trying to grow one from scratch, and make the Jenkins developers appear ungrateful. But the Jenkins developers *wrote the vast bulk of this code*. It's their decision. They've also been pursuing a foundation to represent their interests (not Eclipse!), and given that it's their code, that's generous. By comparison, Oracle's attempting to "give" code which they have no moral claim to strikes one as posturing of the worst sort.
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation Posted May 5, 2011 2:25 UTC (Thu) by Hausvib6 (guest, #70606) [Link]
I agree, a corporation and its PR work. I think that like the OpenOffice.org name in LibreOffice case which has no significant value now, Hudson is just another name. The real value of the project is in Jenkins now. Yeah, it's all about good PR, nothing valuable (except perhaps for Oracle).
Oracle proposes giving Hudson to Eclipse Foundation (ITWorld) Posted May 5, 2011 11:26 UTC (Thu) by lolando (subscriber, #7139) [Link]
Maybe the people at Eclipse Foundation could accept it, decide they don't like it, and hand it over to the Jenkins Foundation (or the SFC or SPI or any other umbrella they choose to host Jenkins under)? Oracle saves appearances, Jenkins gets an official ancestry, and the only regrettable thing is the time it took.
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